leuven edwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> I think it is wrong to have LFUN_LAYOUT do something else than just
>> change the layout.
>
> trying the semantic arguments now? (another sophism ;-)

I have to admit that I had to look-up sophism because as a poor
mathematician I do not use consciously such subtlties (you are free to
believe me or not). But after reading the wikipedia page (and having
this "ah I remember now" instant), I begin to wonder whether accusing
the other side of sophism at each argument is not some kind of
meta-sophism, or even maybe the Mother Of All Sophisms. Because, you'll
have to admit that it is very convenient to avoid discussing a point :)

That said...

> maybe the nesting level is not formally part of the layout *in lyx*,
> it is definitely layout. so i do not see why LFUN_LAYOUT should not
> change it...

To put things differently: we already have too much code adding fancy
side-effects that somebody found clever at the time (I did that myself).
I think that most of them are wrong because they rely of the use pattern
of _one_ guy.

I myself think that the right moment to indicate your intention is at
the time when you create the new paragraph. It is at this point that we
should make things intuitive and quick.

JMarc

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