In my opinion, the best "license" would be releasing the artwork into the public domain, like the tango icon library, open clipart (and some indexed by clker.com) I believe it would boost more creative derivatives, even if the original creator is not mentioned. The proper thing in this case of course would be to re-release the derivative in public domain or... something like CC-SA. :-)
On 9/22/09, Rubén Romero y Cordero <hua...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > In the SU (SpreadUbuntu) project I have tried to push for all artwork to be: > > 1. Either solely licensed under CC-BY-SA > 2. Or double licensed with any license and CC-BY-SA as well > > This is mostly because I understand CC-BY-SA to be the most useful > license for the purpose of marketing material distribution as well as > allowing changes to the material at the same time. > > This might be off-topic for the loco-contact list, but I, personally, > would like more discussion on this issue regarding licensing of > material in the SU marketing repository site. > > Please feel free to start a thread or follow up earlier discussion > within the list of the SU project: > > https://launchpad.net/spreadubuntu > > Thanks in advance! > > Best regards, > > Rubén Romero > https://launchpad.net/~huayra > > SpreadUbuntu Enthusiast > Ubuntu Norge LoCo team contact > > 2009/9/21, Søren Bredlund Caspersen <soeren....@gmail.com>: >> 2009/9/21 Leandro Gómez <leo.tel...@gmail.com>: >>> 2009/9/21, Søren Bredlund Caspersen <soeren....@gmail.com>: >>>> 2009/9/21 Leandro Gómez <leo.tel...@gmail.com>: >>>>> 2009/9/20 Søren Bredlund Caspersen <soeren....@gmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > The attribution information is included in the source files. >>>>>> >>>>>> Upon closer inspection, I see that now. >>>>>> However, to make the use of these buttons more easy, maybe it should >>>>>> be more explicit at the wiki page - but that is a minor issue. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, you're right...my mistake :) >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > If you have limited space, please don't use this graphics. It's as >>>>>> > simple as >>>>>> > that... ok... I'm the original author of the artwork, but if I >>>>>> > weren't >>>>>> > I >>>>>> > would always think the same way: >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't get me wrong here. I brought up the issue because the licensed >>>>>> work is being miss used. I don't want to throw any specific links out >>>>>> there, but go surfing planet ubuntu, and you will find people using >>>>>> these graphics, but not attributing you as the original author. That >>>>>> to me is a clear violation of the license, and I wanted to shine some >>>>>> light on the issue - and possibly figure out if I had misunderstood >>>>>> the license at some point. >>>>> >>>>> I understand the license this way: >>>>> >>>>> If you're using the graphics for promoting the event, it's ok to not >>>>> attribute the author. It's the UGJ we're promoting and there's no need >>>>> to >>>>> link to the authors site. >>>>> >>>>> But, if you're distributing the artwork or making derivated use of it, >>>>> then >>>>> you must attribute. >>>> >>>> Can someone please confirm this? If you use these graphics to promote >>>> the event, you don't have to live up to the license requirement of >>>> attribution? Can there be made this kind of exceptions from the CC >>>> license? >>> >>> From the CC website: >>> >>> "If the work itself contains any copyright notices placed there by the >>> copyright holder, you must leave those notices in tact, or reproduce >>> them in a way that is reasonable to the medium in which you are >>> re-publishing the work." >>> >>> The work itself (the .png graphic) doesn't contain any copyright >>> notice, so IMHO you're not violating the license. >>> >>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FFAQ#How_do_I_properly_attribute_a_Creative_Commons_licensed_work.3F >>> >> >> Great! Thanks! :) >> >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Søren >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If we as a community can't respect the license imposed by people >>>>>> inside our own community on artwork, how can we the expect others >>>>>> respect the license of the software, that seems to be so central to >>>>>> the whole Free Software movement? >>>>> >>>>> I totally agree with you on this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > It doesn't matter if it's code, artwork, literature or music; the >>>>>> > author >>>>>> > must always be acknowleged... just because they've made the >>>>>> > software, >>>>>> > book, >>>>>> > web banner or song available to the public for free, does'nt mean >>>>>> > they >>>>>> > don't >>>>>> > deserve to be acknowledged for their hard work. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > If I follow your logic correctly, we should be removing all the >>>>>> > copyright >>>>>> > notices from the software we use, because it takes more disk space >>>>>> > and >>>>>> > can >>>>>> > become unhandy. >>>>>> >>>>>> In my other mail I specifically tried to argued that those two can't >>>>>> be compared. A few lines of text on one piece of paper take up a much >>>>>> bigger fraction of the face of the paper, than a text document on a >>>>>> harddisk. >>>>> >>>>> Usually, the copyright notice take up a tiny fraction of the brochure, >>>>> poster, cd label,or whatever. I'm sure that you can make some space for >>>>> it. >>>>> :) >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > I don't want to be harsh, but if you're not going to respect the >>>>>> > license, do >>>>>> > your own artwork and publish it as PD or CC0. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think you miss understand me. I _do_ want to respect the license >>>>>> chosen by you (and other publishers). That is the whole reason why I >>>>>> bring up this subject. >>>>>> >>>>>> However I think more people would be able to use the graphics if >>>>>> another license was chosen. But of course the choice of license is >>>>>> solely for the author! >>>>> >>>>> The reason I choose CC-BY-SA was that it was the most common license on >>>>> the >>>>> SU site. But I'm willing to change it if you feel that the current >>>>> license >>>>> prevents people from using the artwork. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Søren >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Cheers, >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> The loco mailing list may not be the right forum for it, but maybe >>>>>> >> there needs to be a general discussion of what license to use for >>>>>> >> marketing material? Or it has already been had, and I have missed >>>>>> >> it? >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Cheers >>>>>> >> Søren >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > Best, >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > Greg >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > [0] http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> Cheers >>>>>> >> >> Søren >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> 2009/8/21 Leandro Gómez <leo.tel...@gmail.com>: >>>>>> >> >> > 2009/8/21 Jono Bacon <j...@ubuntu.com> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> On 08/21/2009 12:10 PM, Leandro Gómez wrote: >>>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >> > Corrales to weave his magic? ;-) >>>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >> > Yes indeed! Would anyone like to do these? Adolfo, could >>>>>> >> >> >> > you >>>>>> >> >> >> > ask >>>>>> >> >> >> > Byron >>>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >> > Made some badges based on Byron's artwork... threw in a >>>>>> >> >> >> > couple >>>>>> >> >> >> > of >>>>>> >> >> >> > web >>>>>> >> >> >> > banners as well... download (including sources) here: >>>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >> > http://www.mediafire.com/?gii7ghtym1y >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> Those images look awesome! Good you attach them and add them >>>>>> >> >> >> to >>>>>> >> >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam - thanks!* >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > Done! :) >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> * >>>>>> >> >> >> Jono >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> -- >>>>>> >> >> >> Jono Bacon >>>>>> >> >> >> Ubuntu Community Manager >>>>>> >> >> >> www.ubuntu.com / www.jonobacon.org >>>>>> >> >> >> www.identi.ca/jonobacon www.twitter.com/jonobacon >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> -- >>>>>> >> >> >> loco-contacts mailing list >>>>>> >> >> >> loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >>>>>> >> >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > -- >>>>>> >> >> > loco-contacts mailing list >>>>>> >> >> > loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >>>>>> >> >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> -- >>>>>> >> >> loco-contacts mailing list >>>>>> >> >> loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >>>>>> >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > -- >>>>>> >> > loco-contacts mailing list >>>>>> >> > loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >>>>>> >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> -- >>>>>> >> loco-contacts mailing list >>>>>> >> loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >>>>>> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > loco-contacts mailing list >>>>>> > loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >>>>>> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> loco-contacts mailing list >>>>>> loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >>>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> loco-contacts mailing list >>>>> loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> loco-contacts mailing list >>>> loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> loco-contacts mailing list >>> loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >>> >> >> -- >> loco-contacts mailing list >> loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >> > > -- > loco-contacts mailing list > loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts > -- Sent from my mobile device -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
