2009/9/21, Søren Bredlund Caspersen <soeren....@gmail.com>:
> 2009/9/21 Leandro Gómez <leo.tel...@gmail.com>:
>> 2009/9/20 Søren Bredlund Caspersen <soeren....@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > The attribution information is included in the source files.
>>>
>>> Upon closer inspection, I see that now.
>>> However, to make the use of these buttons more easy, maybe it should
>>> be more explicit at the wiki page - but that is a minor issue.
>>
>> Yes, you're right...my mistake :)
>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > If you have limited space, please don't use this graphics. It's as
>>> > simple as
>>> > that... ok... I'm the original author of the artwork, but if I weren't
>>> > I
>>> > would always think the same way:
>>>
>>> Don't get me wrong here. I brought up the issue because the licensed
>>> work is being miss used. I don't want to throw any specific links out
>>> there, but go surfing planet ubuntu, and you will find people using
>>> these graphics, but not attributing you as the original author. That
>>> to me is a clear violation of the license, and I wanted to shine some
>>> light on the issue - and possibly figure out if I had misunderstood
>>> the license at some point.
>>
>> I understand the license this way:
>>
>> If you're using the graphics for promoting the event, it's ok to not
>> attribute the author. It's the UGJ we're promoting and there's no need to
>> link to the authors site.
>>
>> But, if you're distributing the artwork or making derivated use of it,
>> then
>> you must attribute.
>
> Can someone please confirm this? If you use these graphics to promote
> the event, you don't have to live up to the license requirement of
> attribution? Can there be made this kind of exceptions from the CC
> license?

>From the CC website:

"If the work itself contains any copyright notices placed there by the
copyright holder, you must leave those notices in tact, or reproduce
them in a way that is reasonable to the medium in which you are
re-publishing the work."

The work itself (the .png graphic) doesn't contain any copyright
notice, so IMHO you're not violating the license.

http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FFAQ#How_do_I_properly_attribute_a_Creative_Commons_licensed_work.3F

>
> Cheers
> Søren
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> If we as a community can't respect the license imposed by people
>>> inside our own community on artwork, how can we the expect others
>>> respect the license of the software, that seems to be so central to
>>> the whole Free Software movement?
>>
>> I totally agree with you on this.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> > It doesn't matter if it's code, artwork, literature or music; the
>>> > author
>>> > must always be acknowleged... just because they've made the software,
>>> > book,
>>> > web banner or song available to the public for free, does'nt mean they
>>> > don't
>>> > deserve to be acknowledged for their hard work.
>>> >
>>> > If I follow your logic correctly, we should be removing all the
>>> > copyright
>>> > notices from the software we use, because it takes more disk space and
>>> > can
>>> > become unhandy.
>>>
>>> In my other mail I specifically tried to argued that those two can't
>>> be compared. A few lines of text on one piece of paper take up a much
>>> bigger fraction of the face of the paper, than a text document on a
>>> harddisk.
>>
>> Usually, the copyright notice take up a tiny fraction of the brochure,
>> poster, cd label,or whatever. I'm sure that you can make some space for
>> it.
>> :)
>>
>>>
>>> > I don't want to be harsh, but if you're not going to respect the
>>> > license, do
>>> > your own artwork and publish it as PD or CC0.
>>>
>>> I think you miss understand me. I _do_ want to respect the license
>>> chosen by you (and other publishers). That is the whole reason why I
>>> bring up this subject.
>>>
>>> However I think more people would be able to use the graphics if
>>> another license was chosen. But of course the choice of license is
>>> solely for the author!
>>
>> The reason I choose CC-BY-SA was that it was the most common license on
>> the
>> SU site. But I'm willing to change it if you feel that the current license
>> prevents people from using the artwork.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Søren
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> The loco mailing list may not be the right forum for it, but maybe
>>> >> there needs to be a general discussion of what license to use for
>>> >> marketing material? Or it has already been had, and I have missed it?
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers
>>> >> Søren
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Best,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Greg
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > [0] http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Cheers
>>> >> >> Søren
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> 2009/8/21 Leandro Gómez <leo.tel...@gmail.com>:
>>> >> >> > 2009/8/21 Jono Bacon <j...@ubuntu.com>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> On 08/21/2009 12:10 PM, Leandro Gómez wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >     Corrales to weave his magic? ;-)
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Yes indeed! Would anyone like to do these? Adolfo, could you
>>> >> >> >> > ask
>>> >> >> >> > Byron
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Made some badges based on Byron's artwork... threw in a couple
>>> >> >> >> > of
>>> >> >> >> > web
>>> >> >> >> > banners as well... download (including sources) here:
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > http://www.mediafire.com/?gii7ghtym1y
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Those images look awesome! Good you attach them and add them to
>>> >> >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam - thanks!*
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Done! :)
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> *
>>> >> >> >>     Jono
>>> >> >> >>
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