In the SU (SpreadUbuntu) project I have tried to push for all artwork to be:
1. Either solely licensed under CC-BY-SA 2. Or double licensed with any license and CC-BY-SA as well This is mostly because I understand CC-BY-SA to be the most useful license for the purpose of marketing material distribution as well as allowing changes to the material at the same time. This might be off-topic for the loco-contact list, but I, personally, would like more discussion on this issue regarding licensing of material in the SU marketing repository site. Please feel free to start a thread or follow up earlier discussion within the list of the SU project: https://launchpad.net/spreadubuntu Thanks in advance! Best regards, Rubén Romero https://launchpad.net/~huayra SpreadUbuntu Enthusiast Ubuntu Norge LoCo team contact 2009/9/21, Søren Bredlund Caspersen <soeren....@gmail.com>: > 2009/9/21 Leandro Gómez <leo.tel...@gmail.com>: >> 2009/9/21, Søren Bredlund Caspersen <soeren....@gmail.com>: >>> 2009/9/21 Leandro Gómez <leo.tel...@gmail.com>: >>>> 2009/9/20 Søren Bredlund Caspersen <soeren....@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > The attribution information is included in the source files. >>>>> >>>>> Upon closer inspection, I see that now. >>>>> However, to make the use of these buttons more easy, maybe it should >>>>> be more explicit at the wiki page - but that is a minor issue. >>>> >>>> Yes, you're right...my mistake :) >>>> >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > If you have limited space, please don't use this graphics. It's as >>>>> > simple as >>>>> > that... ok... I'm the original author of the artwork, but if I >>>>> > weren't >>>>> > I >>>>> > would always think the same way: >>>>> >>>>> Don't get me wrong here. I brought up the issue because the licensed >>>>> work is being miss used. I don't want to throw any specific links out >>>>> there, but go surfing planet ubuntu, and you will find people using >>>>> these graphics, but not attributing you as the original author. That >>>>> to me is a clear violation of the license, and I wanted to shine some >>>>> light on the issue - and possibly figure out if I had misunderstood >>>>> the license at some point. >>>> >>>> I understand the license this way: >>>> >>>> If you're using the graphics for promoting the event, it's ok to not >>>> attribute the author. It's the UGJ we're promoting and there's no need >>>> to >>>> link to the authors site. >>>> >>>> But, if you're distributing the artwork or making derivated use of it, >>>> then >>>> you must attribute. >>> >>> Can someone please confirm this? If you use these graphics to promote >>> the event, you don't have to live up to the license requirement of >>> attribution? Can there be made this kind of exceptions from the CC >>> license? >> >> From the CC website: >> >> "If the work itself contains any copyright notices placed there by the >> copyright holder, you must leave those notices in tact, or reproduce >> them in a way that is reasonable to the medium in which you are >> re-publishing the work." >> >> The work itself (the .png graphic) doesn't contain any copyright >> notice, so IMHO you're not violating the license. >> >> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FFAQ#How_do_I_properly_attribute_a_Creative_Commons_licensed_work.3F >> > > Great! Thanks! :) > >>> >>> Cheers >>> Søren >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> If we as a community can't respect the license imposed by people >>>>> inside our own community on artwork, how can we the expect others >>>>> respect the license of the software, that seems to be so central to >>>>> the whole Free Software movement? >>>> >>>> I totally agree with you on this. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> > It doesn't matter if it's code, artwork, literature or music; the >>>>> > author >>>>> > must always be acknowleged... just because they've made the software, >>>>> > book, >>>>> > web banner or song available to the public for free, does'nt mean >>>>> > they >>>>> > don't >>>>> > deserve to be acknowledged for their hard work. >>>>> > >>>>> > If I follow your logic correctly, we should be removing all the >>>>> > copyright >>>>> > notices from the software we use, because it takes more disk space >>>>> > and >>>>> > can >>>>> > become unhandy. >>>>> >>>>> In my other mail I specifically tried to argued that those two can't >>>>> be compared. A few lines of text on one piece of paper take up a much >>>>> bigger fraction of the face of the paper, than a text document on a >>>>> harddisk. >>>> >>>> Usually, the copyright notice take up a tiny fraction of the brochure, >>>> poster, cd label,or whatever. I'm sure that you can make some space for >>>> it. >>>> :) >>>> >>>>> >>>>> > I don't want to be harsh, but if you're not going to respect the >>>>> > license, do >>>>> > your own artwork and publish it as PD or CC0. >>>>> >>>>> I think you miss understand me. I _do_ want to respect the license >>>>> chosen by you (and other publishers). That is the whole reason why I >>>>> bring up this subject. >>>>> >>>>> However I think more people would be able to use the graphics if >>>>> another license was chosen. But of course the choice of license is >>>>> solely for the author! >>>> >>>> The reason I choose CC-BY-SA was that it was the most common license on >>>> the >>>> SU site. But I'm willing to change it if you feel that the current >>>> license >>>> prevents people from using the artwork. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Søren >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > Cheers, >>>>> > >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The loco mailing list may not be the right forum for it, but maybe >>>>> >> there needs to be a general discussion of what license to use for >>>>> >> marketing material? Or it has already been had, and I have missed >>>>> >> it? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Cheers >>>>> >> Søren >>>>> >> >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Best, >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Greg >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > [0] http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Cheers >>>>> >> >> Søren >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> 2009/8/21 Leandro Gómez <leo.tel...@gmail.com>: >>>>> >> >> > 2009/8/21 Jono Bacon <j...@ubuntu.com> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> On 08/21/2009 12:10 PM, Leandro Gómez wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> > Corrales to weave his magic? ;-) >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> > Yes indeed! Would anyone like to do these? Adolfo, could you >>>>> >> >> >> > ask >>>>> >> >> >> > Byron >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> > Made some badges based on Byron's artwork... threw in a >>>>> >> >> >> > couple >>>>> >> >> >> > of >>>>> >> >> >> > web >>>>> >> >> >> > banners as well... download (including sources) here: >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> > http://www.mediafire.com/?gii7ghtym1y >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> Those images look awesome! Good you attach them and add them >>>>> >> >> >> to >>>>> >> >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam - thanks!* >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > Done! :) >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> * >>>>> >> >> >> Jono >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> -- >>>>> >> >> >> Jono Bacon >>>>> >> >> >> Ubuntu Community Manager >>>>> >> >> >> www.ubuntu.com / www.jonobacon.org >>>>> >> >> >> www.identi.ca/jonobacon www.twitter.com/jonobacon >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> -- >>>>> >> >> >> loco-contacts mailing list >>>>> >> >> >> loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >>>>> >> >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > -- >>>>> >> >> > loco-contacts mailing list >>>>> >> >> > loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >>>>> >> >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> -- >>>>> >> >> loco-contacts mailing list >>>>> >> >> loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >>>>> >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > -- >>>>> >> > loco-contacts mailing list >>>>> >> > loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >>>>> >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> loco-contacts mailing list >>>>> >> loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >>>>> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > loco-contacts mailing list >>>>> > loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >>>>> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> loco-contacts mailing list >>>>> loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> loco-contacts mailing list >>>> loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> loco-contacts mailing list >>> loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >>> >> >> -- >> loco-contacts mailing list >> loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >> > > -- > loco-contacts mailing list > loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts > -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
