Hi Sean, Ethan, all The Docker model is somewhat orthoganal to the aims and implementation of the OSGeo-Live. We are not *against* Docker, its just different. For example, a Docker model works well to spawn hundreds of servers that may be short-lived, and have identical install footprints. I understand that due to the popularity and some commerical investment, the Docker model is being spread further to include demo installs of heavier apps, in an easily reproducible way .. Meanwhile, the OSGeo-Live is intended to be a stand-alone boot, that will work *without a network connection* at all.. this is important in a few scenarios, like a secure physical environment, training and education, the third-world, and in-the-field use, to name a few.. The Live is intended to be a fully-functioning, stand-alone Live disk which works on mid-level and legacy PC hardware. This also makes it well suited to being a 32bit VM, but that is a side-effect. Docker is intended for on-demand, server-side installs and as a side-effect, amakes installation easy on a laptop for a demo .. etc I am not in the Docker community, so if I misundestand, or miss something important here, please speak up ! Lastly, I think i can say we are super-interested in the THREDDS server showing something on the Live. We are first-off an end-user disk, so its not clear what level of detail is appropriate. But there are plenty of possibilities, and it is *definitely* in line with the mission here. best regards from Berkeley, California Brian M Hamlin
On Thu, 3 Dec 2015 07:20:32 +1100, Cameron Shorter wrote: Ethan, The next step in including THREDDS to OSGeo-Live is to officially apply, as per: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive If you wish to join our next release then please send us an email in the next week officially asking to apply. Warm regards, Cameron On 3/12/2015 3:37 am, Sean Arms wrote: Greetings Cameron, I do not mind at all if you share and move this over to the OSGeo-Live list. We have team meetings every Thursday, so I will be sure to bring this up tomorrow to get a feel for it. One question off the top of my head is do you support using Docker to install software? I know it's not mentioned in the wiki, but it makes installation of the THREDDS Data Server pretty painless, and is what we have moved to for running our training workshop. Cheers! Sean On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: Hi Sean, Thanks for getting back. Do you mind if I share our emails on the public OSGeo-Live list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org? Great to hear that THREDDS is going strong. My key question is whether THREDDS wishes to be included on OSGeo-Live? http://live.osgeo.org It is an excellent outreach and marketing tool for Open Source projects, which is handed out on USBs/DVDs at conferences, used by educators in virtual machines in workshops and training programs, and of course from our website. We are right now kicking off the process for our next release (see bottom of this email thread). The process for on boarding new projects is described here: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive If you and your team would like to join us (and I hope you do), please start by emailing an application to our email list (as explained in link above). Warm regards, Cameron Shorter (one of the OSGeo-Live coordinators) On 1/12/2015 3:12 am, Sean Arms wrote: Greetings Cameron, Thank you for considering the addition of the THREDDS project in OSGeo-Live. First and most importantly, I want to assure you that the THREDDS project has not stalled and is indeed still active. Our latest release for both netCDF-Java and the THREDDS Data Server is version 4.6.3, and was released on 31 August 2015. http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/blogs/news/entry/netcdf-java-library-and-tds We are approaching our next release, and hope to have it out by the end of the year (v4.6.4). Note that most of our active development has been on v5.0, which includes a major rewrite and extension to the way gridded datasets are handled in general. This release will also included the latest version of ncWMS (a.k.a. edal-java). We hope to have a beta available sometime in December. While the original lead developer, John Caron, is no longer with Unidata, the THREDDS team is quite strong, and Unidata has doubled down on its commitment to the THREDDS stack - no worries of this project becoming abandonware. If you would like to get an idea of current participation in the project, including external contributors, please see our github project page (includes both netCDF-Java and the THREDDS Data Server): https://github.com/unidata/thredds If you have any specific questions, please do not hesitate to contact us! Cheers! Sean On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Ethan Davis wrote: Hi Cameron, Sean Arms (CCed) is now leading the THREDDS team. I'll let him address your comments. Cheers, Ethan On Nov 28, 2015 1:18 PM, "Cameron Shorter" wrote: Hi Ethan, Are you the right person to talk to about THREDDS? THREEDS [1] has previously been suggested as a candidate for inclusion on OSGeo-Live, but more recently I've heard rumours of a lack of activity from the THREEDS community. [1] http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/thredds/current/tds/ Warm regards, Cameron Shorter On 23/11/2015 6:18 am, Cameron Shorter wrote: We are starting the build cycle for version 9.5 of the OSGeo-Live [1] DVD/USB/VM which will be released in March 2016, ready for several special events, including FOSS4G-NA, FOSSGIS (Salzburg, Austria), among others. We would like to hear from anyone wishing to add new projects to OSGeo-Live, anyone wishing to extend or add translations, or anyone who has ideas on how we should shape the upcoming release. Key Milestones 11 Jan 2016 All new applications installed, most old applications updated 01 Feb 2016 Feature Freeze (all apps updated) 15 Feb 2016 User Acceptance Test (all apps installed and working) 21 Mar 2016 Final ISO sent to printers About OSGeo-Live OSGeo-live is a Lubuntu based distribution of Geospatial Open Source Software, available via a Live DVD, Virtual Machine and USB. You can use OSGeo-Live to try a wide variety of open source geospatial software without installing anything. [1] http://live.osgeo.org -- Cameron Shorter, Software and Data Solutions Manager LISAsoft Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf, 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009 P +61 2 9009 5000, W www.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099 -- Cameron Shorter, Software and Data Solutions Manager LISAsoft Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf, 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009 P +61 2 9009 5000, W www.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099 -- Cameron Shorter, Software and Data Solutions Manager LISAsoft Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf, 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009 P +61 2 9009 5000, W www.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099 ------------------------- _______________________________________________ Live-demo mailing list Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://live.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc -- Brian M Hamlin OSGeo California Chapter blog.light42.com
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