Hi all, I realised that the exclusion o MapIgniter2 was based on giving a lot of weight to 1 criteria (project's comunity).
Let me make two important questions: 1. Whats are the weights of each criteria? (You can even create a formula based on criteria weights). 2. Would it be more democratic and fair the project admission, using a voting system? Thanks :) Em 28/11/2015 11:33, "Angelos Tzotsos" <gcpp.kal...@gmail.com> escreveu: > Also, the disk size question is highly relevant... we are still keeping an > OSGeo graduated project out of the disk due to enormous disk footprint.... > :( > > On 11/28/2015 01:27 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: > >> Hi Daniel, >> >> I agree that we need to help new projects. This is indeed one of the >> roles of OSGeo-Live. The questionnaire is there to identify some aspects of >> the incoming projects, not to act like an incubation process. But we also >> need to filter what is somehow mature and stable. In my opinion the only 2 >> questions that should block an incoming software are the licensing and the >> stable release questions. I recall I was rejected inclusion of pycsw until >> we reached v1.0 and this helped the pycsw team to focus on doing a stable >> release. >> >> I always ask the incoming project to provide an installer to add under >> the beta folder. On the next release, a user can easily install a beta >> project by running the installer from the live system and be able to test >> the software. This also provides time to review documentation and do the >> translations needed. >> >> So I would like to see both MapIgniter2 and OpenEarthView provide and >> maintain their installers according to our packaging standards as beta >> projects for 9.5 and include them as stable in a later release. >> >> Best, >> Angelos >> >> >> On 11/28/2015 08:05 AM, Daniel Kastl wrote: >> >>> Hi Cameron, >>> >>> At the time when OSGeo Live started, no project had to answer a >>> questionnaire, that almost looks like a "Mini application for >>> incubation". So I think there are quite a few installed on OSGeo Live, >>> that wouldn't qualify with the rules you're setting now: >>> http://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/overview.html >>> >>> I can understand the frustration of some, who would like to make their >>> project available on OSGeo Live to reach out to more users. Because this >>> might be actually a way to build a community. We could help them to >>> achieve something, that is pretty difficult and can take years. >>> >>> So I'm not sure we have to be so strict in terms of community and >>> maturity. >>> We should be more strict in how software is installed (ie. providing >>> packages) and that there is someone maintaining the project for OSGeo >>> Live. >>> >>> Just some thoughts, >>> Daniel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 28/11/15 14:43, clem...@igonet.fr wrote: >>> >>>> That's the answer I got for OpenEarthView project... >>>> >>>> OsGeoLive is made for user only, not at all to help starting promising >>>> projects. >>>> >>>> That's frustrating. >>>> >>>> They get the good part of free and open source projects, refusing to >>>> take the risk of helping new ones. >>>> >>>> What to say... That's not the open source (and open mind) philosophy... >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 26 novembre 2015 19:28:14 UTC+01:00, Cameron Shorter >>>> <cameron.shor...@gmail.com> a écrit : >>>> >>>> Hi Marco, >>>> It sounds like you have the start of a good project. >>>> However, my feeling is that has not yet reached the maturity of >>>> the other projects we have on OSGeo-Live. >>>> In particular, we help new users answer the questions: >>>> * What good open source GIS projects are out there? >>>> * What is everyone else using? >>>> >>>> What I suggest working on is getting a stronger answer to the >>>> second question. >>>> Aim to build up a community behind your project. >>>> Look to get your project used by many organisations. >>>> Aim to attract developers from these organisations. >>>> I know this is a tough ask, and often takes years to attract such >>>> a community. >>>> But attracting a community is the true test of whether a project >>>> is valuable or not. >>>> >>>> Apache has a good page about building a community which might be >>>> worth a read: >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/community.html >>>> >>>> On 26/11/2015 6:39 am, Marco Afonso wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Alex, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for your reply. >>>>> >>>>> Follows the MapIgniter application request to integrate OSGeo >>>>> Live. As we can see, this is a very recent project but with very >>>>> good technological background to evolve and specially satisfy >>>>> user needs. >>>>> I hope it can be accepted. If work has to be done, I'm on it! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Marco >>>>> >>>>> *Please describe your application. >>>>> >>>>> What is its name?* >>>>> It's name is MapIgniter2. The name came from previous release, >>>>> where it was based on CodeIgniter PHP framework. >>>>> >>>>> *What is the home page URL?* >>>>> The project's home is hosted on GitHub at >>>>> https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2 >>>>> >>>>> *Which OSI approved Open Source Licence is used?* >>>>> It uses the MIT license. >>>>> >>>>> *What does the application do and how does it add value to the >>>>> GeoSpatial stack of software?* >>>>> MapIgniter is a GeoCMS which combines web mapping features with >>>>> Content Management System (CMS) features. It is a browser-based >>>>> software, or more commonly refered as a web application. The main >>>>> purpose of this software is to let users publish Geographic >>>>> Information on the Internet / Intranet on a free and Open Source >>>>> platform. Considering that there are other Open Source web >>>>> mapping platforms, MapIgniter distinguishes it self, and adds >>>>> value to GeoSpatial stack software, by being powered by cutting >>>>> edge Javascript and PHP frameworks/libraries, providing the best >>>>> tools for creating modern web applications. >>>>> * >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> *Does the application make use of OGC standards? Which versions >>>>> of the standards? Client or server? You may wish to add comments >>>>> about how standards are used.* >>>>> This software makes use of a subset of OGC standards; currently >>>>> WMS and WFS. Specific version numbers can be configured by the >>>>> user. MapIgniter backoffice interface allows to configure these >>>>> OGC service parameters to be used by OpenLayers 3 (frontend web >>>>> mapping library). >>>>> >>>>> *What language is it written in?* >>>>> The default interface language is English. Also includes >>>>> Portuguese language files. Any idiom can be added later. This is >>>>> a feature of the PHP Laravel Architecture which is the PHP >>>>> Framework that powers this software. >>>>> >>>>> *Which version of the application should be included in the next >>>>> OSGeo-Live release?* >>>>> MapIgniter2 targets release 1.0 for the next release of >>>>> OSGeo-Live. >>>>> >>>>> *Stability is very important to us on OSGeo-Live. If a new user >>>>> finds a bug in one application, it will tarnish the reputation of >>>>> all other OSGeo-Live applications as well. (We pay most attention >>>>> to the following answers): >>>>> >>>>> If risk adverse organisations have deployed your application into >>>>> production, it would imply that these organisations have verified >>>>> the stability of your software. Has the application been rolled >>>>> out to production into risk (ideally risk adverse) organisations? >>>>> Please mention some of these organisations?* >>>>> The number of organisations using MapIgniter2 is unknown. Mainly >>>>> because this is a very recent software. Although, being >>>>> MapIgniter built upon Laravel 5.1 and OpenLayers 3, these two >>>>> frameworks have proven it's success in web development >>>>> applications it's usage by a number of companies. >>>>> >>>>> Please see >>>>> Laravel Jobs https://larajobs.com/?partner=5#/ >>>>> Openlayers Sponsors http://openlayers.org/sponsors.html >>>>> >>>>> *Open HUB provides metrics to help assess the health of a >>>>> project. Eg: >>>>> http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/metrics.html Could >>>>> you please ensure that your project is registered with Open HUB, >>>>> and Open HUB has been updated to reference the correct code >>>>> repository(s) for your project. What is the Open HUB URL for your >>>>> project?* >>>>> The Open Hub URL is https://www.openhub.net/p/mapigniter2 >>>>> >>>>> *What is the size of the user community? You can often answer >>>>> this by mentioning downloads, or describing a healthy, busy email >>>>> list?* >>>>> MapIgniter2 has no community yet. The previous release has 10 >>>>> forks on GitHub, 19 starred and 9 people watching the repository. >>>>> The Google groups has been some activity since 2012 until April >>>>> 2015 from several users. >>>>> >>>>> *What is the size of your developer community?* >>>>> Currently there is one developer. >>>>> >>>>> *Do you have a bug free, stable release?* >>>>> Not yet. >>>>> * >>>>> * >>>>> *Please discuss the level of testing that your project has gone >>>>> through.* >>>>> There will be automated tests in soon. >>>>> >>>>> *How long has the project has had mature code.* >>>>> The project is very recent. >>>>> >>>>> *OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications that people can use >>>>> rather than libraries. Does the application have a user interface >>>>> (possibly a command line interface) that a user can interact >>>>> with? (We do make an exception for Incubated OSGeo Libraries, and >>>>> will include Project Overviews for these libraries, even if they >>>>> don't have a user interface.)* >>>>> Yes the software works on a web browser interface. >>>>> >>>>> *We give preference to OSGeo Incubated Projects, or Projects >>>>> which are presented at FOSS4G conferences. If your project is >>>>> involved in OSGeo Incubation, or has been selected to be >>>>> presented at FOSS4G, then please mention it.* >>>>> Previous release of MapIgniter was presented to the OSGeo >>>>> Portuguese community on the 16th November 2012. >>>>> >>>>> Please see >>>>> http://www.osgeo.org/node/1318 >>>>> http://osgeopt.pt/eventos/sasig5.markdown/ >>>>> * >>>>> * >>>>> *With around 50 applications installed on OSGeo-Live, us core >>>>> packagers do not have the time to liaise with every single >>>>> project email list for each OSGeo-Live release. So we require a >>>>> volunteer (or two) to take responsibility for liaising between >>>>> OSGeo-Live and the project's communities. This volunteer will be >>>>> responsible for ensuring the install scripts and English >>>>> documentation are updated by someone for each OSGeo-Live release. >>>>> Also test that the installed application and Quickstart >>>>> documentation works as expected on release candidate releases of >>>>> OSGeo-Live. Who will act as the project's liaison person.* >>>>> * >>>>> OSGeo-Live is Ubuntu Linux based. Our installation preference is: >>>>> >>>>> Install from UbuntuGIS or DebianGIS >>>>> Install .deb files from a PPA >>>>> Write a custom install script >>>>> >>>>> Can you please discuss how your application will be installed.* >>>>> *MapIgniter is a web mapping application based on PHP Laravel 5.1 >>>>> Framework. Laravel framework runs over Apache2 or Nginx web >>>>> servers. MapIgniter system requirements matches Laravel 5.1 >>>>> requirements.* >>>>> MapIgniter install procedure is similar to Laravel install >>>>> procedure. It can be manually installed by using the instructions >>>>> documented in MapIgniter GitHub repository. Also, there is an >>>>> install script (linux) that automates the install process. Just >>>>> enter onto Apache public folder and run from shell >>>>> curl >>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2/master/install.sh >>>>> | sudo sh >>>>> >>>>> Please see >>>>> Laravel Documentation http://laravel.com/docs/5.1 >>>>> Install script >>>>> https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2/blob/master/install.sh >>>>> >>>>> *OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained. Can the application >>>>> run in 512 Meg of RAM?* >>>>> Yes. >>>>> >>>>> *How much disk space will be required to install the application >>>>> and a suitable example application?* >>>>> Approximately 38 Mbytes. >>>>> >>>>> *We aim to reduce disk space by having all applications make use >>>>> of a common dataset. We encourage applications to make use of the >>>>> example datasets already installed: >>>>> >>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets >>>>> If another dataset would be more appropriate, please discuss >>>>> here. Is it appropriate, to remove existing demo datasets which >>>>> may already be included in the standard release.* >>>>> Examples datasets provided by OSGeo Live are fine to be used with >>>>> MapIgniter. Optimum data is with native Web Mercator projection. >>>>> >>>>> *Each OSGeo-Live application requires a Project Overview >>>>> available under a CC By and a Quickstart available under a CC >>>>> By-SA license. (You may release under a second license as well). >>>>> Will you produce this?* >>>>> Yes. >>>>> >>>>> *In past releases, we have included Windows and Mac installers >>>>> for some applications. It is likely we won't have space for these >>>>> in future releases. However, if there is room, would you be >>>>> wishing to include Windows and/or Mac installers?* >>>>> Yes, Windows installer. >>>>> * >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2015-11-25 17:01 GMT+00:00 Alex Mandel >>>>> <tech_...@wildintellect.com <mailto:tech_...@wildintellect.com>>: >>>>> >>>>> On 11/25/2015 08:24 AM, Marco Afonso wrote: >>>>> > Hi, >>>>> > >>>>> > I would like to submit a new project for OSGeo-Live. >>>>> > >>>>> > The project in case is MapIgniter2. >>>>> > Here is the home of the project: >>>>> https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2 >>>>> > >>>>> > I would like to know what are the requirements and >>>>> procedures to be >>>>> > accepted to integrate OSGeo Live. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> Marco, >>>>> >>>>> Reply to this thread with the answers to the following >>>>> questions: >>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Apply >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The expanded details of adding new projects is documented at: >>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Alex >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Marco Afonso >>>>> http://goo.gl/ZDtQjm >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Live-demo mailing list >>>>> Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org >>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo >>>>> http://live.osgeo.org >>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cameron Shorter, >>>> Software and Data Solutions Manager >>>> LISAsoft >>>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf, >>>> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009 >>>> >>>> P +61 2 9009 5000, W www.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099 >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> Live-demo mailing list >>>> Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org >>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo >>>> http://live.osgeo.org >>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc >>>> >>>> clem...@igonet.fr >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Live-demo mailing list >>>> Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org >>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo >>>> http://live.osgeo.org >>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Live-demo mailing list >>> Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org >>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo >>> http://live.osgeo.org >>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc >>> >> >> >> > > -- > Angelos Tzotsos, PhD > OSGeo Charter Member > http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos > > _______________________________________________ > Live-demo mailing list > Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo > http://live.osgeo.org > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
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