On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Erik Grinaker <e...@bengler.no> wrote: > >> On 06 Jan 2015, at 17:20, Eric Dumazet <eric.duma...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Tue, 2015-01-06 at 16:11 +0000, Erik Grinaker wrote: >>>> On 06 Jan 2015, at 16:04, Eric Dumazet <eric.duma...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Tue, 2015-01-06 at 15:14 +0000, Erik Grinaker wrote: >>>>> (CCing Yuchung, as his name comes up in the relevant commits) >>>>> >>>>> After upgrading from Ubuntu 12.04.5 to 14.04.1 we have begun seeing >>>>> intermittent TCP connection hangs for HTTP image requests against >>>>> Amazon S3. 3-5% of requests will suddenly stall in the middle of the >>>>> transfer before timing out. We see this problem across a range of >>>>> servers, in several data centres and networks, all located in Norway. >>>>> >>>>> A packet dump [1] shows repeated ACK retransmits for some of the TCP does not retransmit ACK ... do you mean DUPACKs sent by the receiver?
I am trying to understand the problem. Could you confirm that it's the HTTP responses sent from Amazon S3 got stalled, or HTTP requests sent from the receiver (your host)? btw I suspect some middleboxes are stripping SACKOK options from your SYNs (or Amazon SYN-ACKs) assuming Amazon supports SACK. >>>>> requests. Using Ubuntu mainline kernels, we found the problem to have >>>>> been introduced between 3.11.10 and 3.12.0, possibly in >>>>> 0f7cc9a3c2bd89b15720dbf358e9b9e62af27126. The problem is also present >>>>> in 3.18.1. Disabling tcp_window_scaling seems to solve it, but has >>>>> obvious drawbacks for transfer speeds. Other sysctls do not seem to >>>>> affect it. >>>>> >>>>> I am not sure if this is fundamentally a kernel bug or a network >>>>> issue, but we did not see this problem with older kernels. >>>>> >>>>> [1] http://abstrakt.bengler.no/tcp-issues-s3.pcap.bz2 >>>> >>>> >>>> CC netdev >>>> >>>> This looks like the bug we fixed here : >>>> >>>> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=39bb5e62867de82b269b07df900165029b928359 >>> >>> Has that patch gone into a release? Because the problem persists with >>> 3.18.1. >> >> Patch is in 3.18.1 yes. >> >> So thats a separate issue. >> >> Can you confirm pcap was taken at receiver (195.159.221.106), not sender >> (54.231.136.74) , and on which host is running the 'buggy kernel' ? > > Yes, pcap was taken on receiver (195.159.221.106). > >> If the sender is broken, changing the kernel on receiver wont help. >> >> BTW not using sack (on 54.231.132.98) is terrible for performance in >> lossy environments. > > It may well be that the sender is broken; however, the sender is Amazon S3, > so I do not have any control over it. And in any case, the problem goes away > with 3.11.10 on receiver, but persists with 3.12.0 (or later) on receiver, so > there must be some change in 3.12.0 which has caused this to trigger. > > If you are confident that the problem is with Amazon, I can get in touch with > their engineering department. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/