On Saturday 02 August 2003 17:59, Vasiliev Michael wrote: > On Saturday 02 August 2003 14:33, Guy Cohen wrote: > > They still do nothing. > > > > This is absolutly disrespct for good paying customers!!! > > Well, once, in my free time, I interviewed a number of well known sysadmins > on a certain IRC network asking what they do to deal with these pesky > spammers. The majority noted that small ISPs don't even respect their own > spam policies (if they have one) in fear of losing valuable broadband > users. You mail the abuse desk and get no response or "we will investigate" > reply while still nothing is really done. In that case, if the ISP is so > persistent in spammer protection, use your favorite network tools to look > up who is their uplink and mail them instead with all the details, logs , > etc. It is usually only the threat of contacting the uplink of the said ISP > that sets the abuse desk wheels in motion :) > Why? Most of the uplink service contracts have a part that deals with > instant termination of service and paying of huge fines by the poor > bandwidth reseller that made the wrong decision of hosting spammers.
That's not very true. Uplinks are not as interested in dealing with peering issues when it comes to spam. The "usual" way to beat the living fear into the stupid spam hosting ISPs is to submit them to blacklists and make sure SPEWS notices them. As more and more netspace of that ISP is going to be blacklisted and more and more customers will not be able to send email to the rest of the world, the spammy ISP will become more and more considerate of this. As a matter of the fact, that's what was done to hostnoc/burstnet, who repeatedly refused to cease cooperation with azoogle, one of the largest spam support operations ever to exist. Only when it came to the Internet Death Penalty (nullrouting everywhere by all cooperative admins) burstnet terminated azoogle's contract. By then though it was too late for them. -- Mix Sella (well, not really but hey) This mail was checked for viruses by Romat email server ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
