On Saturday 02 August 2003 05:42, Shaul Karl wrote: > I got a similar message for the 2 last messages that I have sent to > the list. I guess that I will have another one for this message too. Was > there a modification to the list policies lately regarding the header of > the messages that are sent by it? I didn't get such messages when I had > another ISP up to a few days ago. > Do you think there is a point in fwd this message to my ISP? The > content of the message seems directly targets the ISP and it does give > them a bad reputation. Hopefully I will have one less spamer off my > email. Alternatively, maybe the massage have true assertions against my > ISP?
I don't think so. Unless you cc: the message directly to the tmicha.net recipient, it's responding to the listserv propagating it. Therefore, it's whining at the listserv IP range (or whichever is the closest MX hop, I can't see it here because they don't post the original offending message, IDIOTS). It is the list owner's concern, not yours. The Cabal must now act in order to abuse back their ISP :) What *is* interesting however is that the site itself looks rather suspicious and I would not be surprised that this is a blatant plug to attract subscribers. I will monitor this issue personally and report back if I find anything. > In addition, the whois entry for Tmicha.net doesn't carry much > information. How is it possible to get such an entry? Plain violation of regulations. Domains with such records are bounded to be purged, but most registrars are reluctant to to so and you would normally have to go to hell and beyond. This or that way I'll submit tmicha.net to rfc-ignorant.org so that in case they'll do anything stupid blacklists would have advisory information to act upon. If they want to be on the spamfighter side (TINW) then they should at least have the decency not to do the same thing as spammers. Besides, no self respecting spamfighter would ever touch something as filthy as ASP. This entire deal seems to me that a wannabe spamfighter decided to be the self proclaimed net.police authority. This or that way, will the Cabal please listwash the moron? > Yet doesn't the > header clearly shows that Tmicha.net == 213.8.90.214? And isn't the > whois entry for 213.8.90.214 definitely relates it to Internet Gold? It does. Point being? > I have included the whois queries at the bottom of my message. > > > ----- Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- > > Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Delivery-date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 04:37:23 +0300 > Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] ident=fetchmail) > by localhost with esmtp (Exim 4.14) > id 19ilKk-0001Lq-SK > for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 02 Aug 2003 04:37:22 +0300 > X-Sieve: cmu-sieve 2.0 > Received: from mail3.actcom.net.il [192.114.47.14] > by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-6.2.2) > for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Sat, 02 Aug 2003 04:37:22 +0300 (IDT) > Received: from smtp1.actcom.net.il (mail.actcom.co.il [192.114.47.13]) > by mail3.actcom.co.il (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h721RU209100 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 04:27:30 +0300 > Received: from tmicha.net ([213.8.90.214]) > by smtp1.actcom.net.il (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h721SYr9030061 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 04:28:35 +0300 > Received: from tmicha.net [127.0.0.1] by tmicha.net [127.0.0.1] > with RAW (MDaemon.PRO.v6.5.2.R) > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 02 Aug 2003 04:24:45 +0200 > Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 04:24:45 +0200 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Warning! Your message was rejected > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > X-Actual-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Hello, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your message was delayed by Tmicha.net mail server. > The reasons for that might be the following: > > 1. Your ISP (Internet Service Provider) is unwilling to > cancel spammers' accounts > 2. Your ISP does not enforce/have Acceptable User Policy (AUP) > 3. Your ISP does not have anti-spam policy > > Message delay is necessary to verify that you are an actual > person and not a spammer. > > In order to deliver your message to the original recipient, > please RESEND the original message including the following words > in the 'Subject' field (including parentheses): > > (not spam) > > > Regards, > > Tmicha.net Abuse Dept. > > > Message delayed: > ---------------- > Subject: Re: Keysigning issues > Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 04:13:49 +0300 > > > > > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > > > Script started on Sat Aug 2 05:25:33 2003 > $ whois Tmicha.net > > Found a referral to whois.namesdirect.com. > > > The data contained in the WHOIS database, while > believed by the company to be reliable, is provided "as is", > with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This > information is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you > in obtaining information about domain name registration records. > Any use of this data for any other purpose, including, but not > limited to, allowing or making possible dissemination or > collection of this data in part or in its entirety for any > purpose, such as the transmission of unsolicited advertising and > solicitations, is expressly forbidden without the prior written > permission of this company. By submitting an inquiry, you agree > to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty. > Please limit your queries to 10 per minute and one connection. > > Registrant: > Slav BA > Confidential > Tel Aviv, 90210 > IL > > Registrar: NAMESDIRECT > Domain Name: TMICHA.NET > Created on: 07-MAY-01 > Expires on: 07-MAY-04 > Last Updated on: 05-MAY-03 > > Administrative, Technical Contact: > BA, Slav [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Confidential > Tel Aviv, 90210 > IL > 972-52-294612 > > > Domain servers in listed order: > NS1.MYDOMAIN.COM > NS2.MYDOMAIN.COM > NS3.MYDOMAIN.COM > NS4.MYDOMAIN.COM > > End of Whois Information > $ whois 213.8.90.214 > % This is the RIPE Whois server. > % The objects are in RPSL format. > % > % Rights restricted by copyright. > % See http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/copyright.html > > inetnum: 213.8.0.0 - 213.8.255.255 > netname: IL-EURONET-RG-990603 > descr: Euronet Digital Communications > descr: Provider Local Registry > country: IL > admin-c: AR4994-RIPE > tech-c: AA957908-RIPE > tech-c: NS3998-RIPE > status: ALLOCATED PA > mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT > mnt-lower: AS5486-MNT > mnt-routes: AS5486-MNT > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19990603 > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20000303 > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20000407 > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20010302 > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20010515 > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20010531 > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20020419 > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20020423 > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20020428 > source: RIPE > > route: 213.8.0.0/16 > descr: EURONET > origin: AS5486 > mnt-by: AS5486-MNT > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20020428 > source: RIPE > > person: Amos Rosenboim > address: Internet Gold - LTD. > address: Alexander Yanai 1, > address: Petah-Tikva > address: Israel > phone: +972 39 399 703 > fax-no: +972 39 399 700 > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > nic-hdl: AR4994-RIPE > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20020206 > source: RIPE > > person: Nir Shamir > address: Alexander Yanay 1 > address: Petach Tikva > address: Israel > phone: +972-3-9399738 > fax-no: +972-57-975005 > nic-hdl: NS3998-RIPE > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20030101 > source: RIPE > > person: Arik Alster > address: Ha'melacha 22 > address: Park Sibel, Rosh Haain > address: Israel > phone: +972-3-9020000 > fax-no: +972-3-9024222 > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > nic-hdl: AA957908-RIPE > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20010607 > source: RIPE > > > $ exit > exit > > Script done on Sat Aug 2 05:26:06 2003 -- Mix Sella (well, not really but hey) This mail was checked for viruses by Romat email server ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
