Hi, On Thu, Dec 26, 2002 at 03:44:28PM +0200, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: > On Thursday 26 December 2002 15:15, Nadav Har'El wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 26, 2002, Guy Baruch wrote about "OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi > site and linux/mozilla client": > > > Hello, just a good story for a change, hope it's not too OT. > > > Bank Leumi just recently did a face-lift to their "Leumi-Ba-Internet" > > > site. > > > > Interesting to see you think it is a *good* story... > > > > After their site working well for a long time, I suddenly noticed a couple > > of days ago that I can no longer use it with Mozilla. They had a "feedback" > > link which I tried to use to complain, but that did not work too! > > > > So what do we have here: > > > > 1. A company that designs its website with the typical Israeli over- > > complication and utter disregard to standards and non-IE browsers; > > It takes a very determined Microsoft junkie to create a site that > > works as badly with Mozilla as the current Leumi site (at least the one I > > tried a couple of days ago) - every link appeared to be a horribly > > complicated javascript crap instead of normal link, for example. Hello > > there, Leumi, what about people using Mozilla? Konqueror? Opera? Blind > > people using a text broswer? And why the heck do you need all that > > Javascript stuff, instead of just using standard links? > For that is what their site generation software provides :-( And since 99% of > Israeli PC users ( if not more ) use Windows, there is no reason for them to > EVER check the compatibility of their site with non-IE browsers.
There are other reasons for not using complex javascript links; besides what Nadav said (which I completely agree with), it's also much slower than hrefs. Usually people do not notice this, but it is very annoying when connecting to a Windows Terminal Server (from either Linux or Windows!) - moving the mouse over such links, in case they were e.g. written to change their color in such a case, is terribly slow on slow links. I have seen configurations that tried to redraw the whole IE window when moving over every single link in a home page. A normal user won't notice this at all, but it's unusable when connecting with a "remote desktop". The point is - it has nothing to do with Linux users demanding unreasonable behaviour (like making a company write 2 sites for 3% of the users). It's all about regular things about software development - clean, simple, standards-compliant designs vs. the too-common bells and whistles. > > > > 2. A company which doesn't want to hear complaints, so instead of having > > an email address, phone number, or even a decent link, they have a > > non-functioning javascript complaint form.. I wrote a detailed > > complaint, but the the "send" button did not work! I couldn't find an > > alternative avenue of complaint. > It all does function - in IE. > > > > > (which, TWIMC, is the old site at (note case): > > > https://hb.leumi.co.il/H/Login.html ) > > > > So now we have #3 > > 3. They knew they had a problem, and yet they didn't return the old > > site, nor did they at least provide a link to it on their new site > > ("if the new site doesn't work for you, try <A HREF=...>this</A>"). > > > > :( > One another company with such attitudes is, to my deepest regret, Netvision. > The part of their site that describes various broadband subscription options, > is clearly created with IE in mind ONLY. > -- > > Regards, > Alex Chudnovsky > e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ : 35559910 > > > ================================================================= > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Didi ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
