I'm terribly sorry I had to interfer. I do not see why the code of
behivour of religious people is less "davka" than of a secular person. I
for example don't eat in a place which announce itself Kosher for
Mehadrin, becuase I belief doing so would hurt my belief, and goals, just
like you the kosher-keeper don't eat non-kosher food, as it would hurt
your relations with god.

You might say I'm doing that Davka. that of course would be your opinion,
I can always argue (and probably be right) that the laws religious people
follow are made "davka" to seperate them from other religions. This of
course would mean only that what now might seem davka for you would in
several years from now be a legitimate (which is, even if this is davka. I
have the right to do davka as long as it doesn't hurt you).

Again, if you claim god told you not to do something (you are invited to
llok at http://wwww.daatemet.org.il for some answers about what god said
and hadn't said) it's legitimate as me saying /dev/null told me to do
something, until you meet /devnull and he says the other way around, or I
meet god.


Orr Dunkelman,
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"Logic is in the eye of the logician"   -Gloria Steinem

On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Gavrie Philipson wrote:

> Well, of course deeming anyone who thinks different than you as
> "illogical" is a very mature and logical act by itself.
> 
> The people who don't go into a restaurant serving meat&milk do so for a
> reason (whether logical or not). The person who doesn't go into a
> restaurant _refusing_ to serve meat&milk does so just out of spite. Or
> do you want to tell me that you never eat a meal at home in which meat
> and milk are not mixed? In that case I stand corrected.
> 
> 
> Neither will I. Never. A company that serves non-kosher food just for
> the purpose of it isn't going to see any revenue from me. So, at least
> we agree on something ;-)
> 
> I think the point of disagreement is very simple: Religious people
> follow specific rules for a *reason* (whether good or not is not the
> issue).
> Trying to create an artificial "Anti-religion" -- just to do the
> opposite of what religous people do -- out of principle ("davka") is
> something different altogether.
> 
> Anyway, let's move this discussion to some other place.
> 
> Gavrie.
> 
> -- 
> Gavrie Philipson
> Netmor Applied Modeling Research Ltd.
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