And even doing things for appearances sake ("Mar'it Ayin") is not so clear
cut. If you do something for "Mar'it Ayin", then it is a legitimate
argument, by some orthodox people as well, that it were better had you not
observed the rule at all.

Now personally, when dining in a group some of which eats kosher, I'd
prefer a kosher place, and being vegeterian, some vegeterian selection is
necessary.  It is more common to find vegeterian selections which are
certainly vegeterian in kosher places (although I have been offered fish
in kosher places a few times when I asked about the vegerian selection -
I usually reply that while I'm sure the fish was vegeterian when he was
alive...)

Thanks,
Uri



 On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Gavrie Philipson wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Orr Dunkelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 1:28 PM
> Subject: Kosher vs. Non-Kosher (was Re: Organizing a Linux Dinner)
> 
> 
> > Well, After reading the thread about the linux dinner, I might point out
> > several points which will help to choose resturant:
> >
> > A. Kosher-keepers can always eat vegtables. I know you want the plate to
> > be kosher as well, but you are advised to open the Halacha and find out
> > that this is "Siag" that was added only in the recent years (do you really
> > think that in the second house time, when people were poor, they held two
> > plates sets?).
> 
> Well, IANAR (I'm not a Rabbi). Are you one? However, the mere deed of
> sitting and eating in a non-kosher restaurant is Halachically forbidden,
> because of something called "Mar'it Ayin": If someone sees an observant Jew
> eating in a non-kosher place, he may think that the place is kosher and eat
> there too. Therefore, your point is moot.
> 
> Gavrie.
> 
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