This must be the stupidest way of thought I've seen. It shows you are not
even +AF8-trying+AF8- to hear an opinion different than yours, even if it's logical.

Why is the idea of people +ACo-not+ACo- going into a restaurant because they serve
meat and also coffee with milk seem FINE to you, while on the other hand the
objection of going to a restaurant that +ACo-refuses+ACo- to serve coffee with milk
seems okay?+ACE-

And about asking 'when does a restaurant stop being kosher', common - I hope
you were just asking for the sake of the argument, because if you were
serious it shows a lot about your ability to understand complex logical
sentences (and if this is the case, just delete this e-mail and get on with
your life. You're going to miss most of the ideas I try to express here).
If religious people have strict and coherent rules which tell them which
restaurants they will or will not eat in, what makes it difficult for you to
understand that some non-religious people have similar rules too?
I, for one, will +AF8-not+AF8- eat in a +AF8-kosher+AF8- McDonalds. Never. No matter 
how
hungry I am, or how much I like McDonalds. I will try to avoid going into a
kosher restaurant altogether if I have a choice. Other people have other
rules (see http://www.hofesh.org.il for some other examples) some are much
stricter than I am.

Just a few words about this 'religious' war. Notice that neither Moshe nor I
said anything bad about the religious people's freedom to choose their
restaurants. On the other hand, a large group tried to condemn Moshe for
doing this exact same thing. Man, this country needs a HUKA...

- Aviram


----- Original Message -----
From: +ACI-Gavrie Philipson+ACI- +ADw-gavrie+AEA-netmor.com+AD4-
To: +ACI-Moshe Zadka+ACI- +ADw-moshez+AEA-math.huji.ac.il+AD4-
Cc: +ADw-linux-il+AEA-linux.org.il+AD4-
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: Organizing a Linux Dinner


+AD4- Moshe Zadka wrote:
+AD4- +AD4-
+AD4- +AD4- On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Nadav Har'El wrote:
+AD4- +AD4-
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4- (i.e., the dinner will probably be kosher
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4- after all, whether MosheZ likes it or not).
+AD4- +AD4-
+AD4- +AD4- It's not a matter of +ACI-liking+ACI-, it's a matter of being there. 
+You're free
+AD4- +AD4- to have the dinner wherever you want -- I won't be there if it's Kosher.
+AD4- +AD4- I'm sorry I didn't make it clearer sooner.
+AD4-
+AD4- Hmm... and what are your criteria for it +ACI-being kosher+ACI-?
+AD4- Is a certificate from the Rabbanut enough for you not to come, or must
+AD4- the food itself be non-kosher? Is kosher meat acceptable, as long as
+AD4- it's served with cheese? Does the act of adding the cheese render the
+AD4- meal acceptable to you, which otherwise it wouldn't be?
+AD4- And, as one of the criteria was the option of vegetarian meals -- are
+AD4- you going to order special, genetically-engineered non-kosher
+AD4- vegetables, maybe produced by adding pig genes to vegetables?
+AD4-
+AD4- Grow up+ACE-
+AD4-
+AD4- Gavrie.
+AD4-
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