Am 10.01.2013 21:15, schrieb Joseph Rushton Wakeling:
On 01/10/2013 12:09 AM, Urs Liska wrote:
It was already discussed on this list: It was a silly idea to use
copyrighted
material at all for this tutorial. It was just something I was
working on at
that time, and I didn't really think about it ...
To be honest, I disagree. This is something that a standalone project
can reasonably do which the main project can't, and it's useful,
because it shows how to solve real, complicated notational problems in
Lilypond. Contemporary music, which is almost all in copyright,
generally presents the most complex notational problems to solve, and
made-up examples don't cut it because there's no
professionally-engraved example to compare them to.
I'm not really sure what to think of the issue.
Personally I don't have any problem with using the example as I did. The
Schoenberg school happens to be one of the things I'm most engaged with
in the last years, so it's quite natural that it 'occurs' that I use
something from that source.
But there had been quite some discussion here whethere lilypond.org
could link to such a tutorial or not, and I tend to agree that an Open
Source project should have Open Documentation.
Personally I think that I small library of _real_ contemporary musical
examples, compared to the published score, would be an extremely
useful resource for Lilypond. It shouldn't be difficult to secure
publishers' permission for short extracts.
But I just reviewed my communication with UE and noticed that I (and
them) only
talked about the 'measures' of the music, not about which rendering
of them
(i.e. a scan of the UE edition or my new typesetting). They allowed
me 'to show
these music examples on my homepage' - any other use wasn't allowed.
Which I think means that I can also put the original edition into it.
In any case, your use of these few measures probably comes under "fair
use" exemptions for educational/teaching purposes, etc.
That's what I have come to think too in the meantime. So i think I'll
include the example in our collection of tutorials, because I can't see
me rewriting the tutorial with another example (it would surely be very
easy to find an equivalent example in the music of Alban Berg, who ran
out of copyright several years ago)
But I probably won't touch it until I reformat it as a PDF version.
There had
been some valuable comments on this list right after the first
'release' of the
tutorial - which still haven't been incorporated :-(
I'd say, don't wait for revisions which will require some thought --
just add in the original image now. ;-)
Maybe you're right. Today I realized that I really only have to replace
the image, without updating a single word ...
It's just a matter of deciding to take the time to acquire the image,
either by extracting it from the IMSLP score or by getting my own score
home and make a scan ...
Best
Urs
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