I agree that in the examples you gave the accidentals look a lot better in
the 2.12 versions.

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Keith E OHara <k-ohara5...@oco.net> wrote:

> In "First impressions of alpha test" I wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:41:24 -0700, Joe Neeman <joenee...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Do you consider this desirable?
>>>
>>
>> Personally, I have a neutral opinion on the aggressive tucking.
>>
>
> Well, opinions change over time. It is a subtle thing, but I think the old
> naive spacing around accidentals makes an easier-to-read page.  Here are two
> dense measures of Debussy that are a little difficult to space.
>
> Moving the notes over the clef-change is a good thing, of course.
>
> The stem-accidental collisions do not occur unless the beam crosses staffs,
> even if it is kneed, so they might be considered part of the cross-staff
> issues.  The spacing of the first three 16ths is probably a cross-staff
> artifact as well.  However, stems of cross-staff beams will always be
> special cases in collision resolution, so they can cross a long hairpin
> crescendo for example.  So I suggest that keeping accidentals clear of other
> note columns might be wisest.
>
> More simply, in the last three 16th notes (demisemiquavers) in the first
> measure, I want the accidental to give me a bit of extra space for
> readability.  I was able to create a small example showing a case where
> notes with an accidental in between were actually spaced closer together. (I
> imagined the new spacing engine getting a little too excited: "can I fit
> under the neighboring accidental?  Yes!  Oh boy lets slide these
> together!!")
>
> So I favor less aggressive tucking of noteheads under other noteheads and
> their attached accidentals, if that is an option. Other opinions?
> --
> Keith
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