On Wed, 2024-05-08 at 09:40 +0000, Giles Boardman wrote:
> Hi Graham,
> 
> Copylist duly noted - I wasn't sure of etiquette.
> 
> There is nothing else to my script, so unless it's part of the
> "mensural" set up, there is no \paper { ragged-right = ##t } or any
> other related setting.

Sorry, I was unclear:  you are likely to _need_ ragged-right, otherwise
the right-justification of the staves will trump the tight spacing of
the mensural notation.
> 
> What I meant by the other remark was exactly what you did when you
> said "\break is your friend" - the documentation is excellent, once
> I've figured out what to look for, so the trick is to know what
> things are called. Using  \melisma is a case in point. I'm not
> familiar with the term so I didn't know to look for it and got to it
> because it's in a snippet I copied because I recognized the note
> shapes. So, telling me "read up about \blah" is really helpful. It's
> great to get a leg up but obviously I need to learn, in order to be
> self-sufficient. 

Everyone is recommended to read the Learning Manual of course.

> The sleuthing is fun too, but sometimes you just want the answer 😉

That's what we're all here for :)
> 
> Best
> 
> Giles
> 
> 
> From: Graham King <lilyp...@tremagi.org.uk>
> Sent: 08 May 2024 10:20
> To: Giles Boardman <giles.board...@hotmail.co.uk>; lilypond-
> u...@gnu.org <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
> Subject: Re: Spacing in mensural notation
>  
> Hi Giles,
> please copy the list: it helps others, and you might get better
> advice than I can offer.
> 
> Thoughts interspersed below...
> 
> On Wed, 2024-05-08 at 07:56 +0000, Giles Boardman wrote:
> > Hello Graham,
> > 
> > This is perfect, except it only affects the last line. The lines
> > wrap and the rests are where they should be in relation to the rest
> > of the notes, but only the portion on the last line has been re-
> > spaced.
> 
> Do you have this line?
> \paper { ragged-right = ##t }
> > 
> It sounds like you might have ragged-last = ##t  set somewhere.
> 
> > I'm going to look at treating each line in the original as a new
> > piece of music. 
> 
> That sounds like a difficult way to set about things.  \break is your
> friend, once we've solved the problem above.
> 
> > Then I could mimic the original layout, which would be the best
> > solution for comparison anyway. So far I've mainly been working on
> > getting data into Lilypond so I can see whathappens ot it when I
> > stat to play around, so any suggestions as to how to go about this
> > and what to be looking for in the documentation would be most
> > welcome.
> 
> I'm not sure I understand what you're asking here.  For keeping
> changes under control, a revision control system such as git is
> invaluable.
> For searching the documentation, the index in the back of the
> Notation Reference (NR) is invaluable.  And the Snippets Repository
> athttps://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/ and the mailing list archive at
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/ can be very
> helpful.
> > 
> > Best
> > 
> > Giles
> 
> > <snip>
> 

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