(copying the list, so that others can benefit/contribute)
Giles,
I played around with this some more, and got slightly better results by
setting
\override Score.SpacingSpanner.shortest-duration-space = #1
Another tip, which might be obvious: for proof-reading, I often play
the MIDI output and follow along, reading the original source.
-- Graham
On Tue, 2024-05-07 at 18:59 +0000, Giles Boardman wrote:
> Hello Graham,
>
> I couldn't get any noticeable difference from the spanners, though,
> as a beginner, I'm quite pleased I was in the right ballpark at all!
> The other idea definitely has an effect but with two side effects -
> the lines no longer wrap and the rests are unaffected, so I need to
> become more proficient and then I can perhaps figure it out. My main
> aim is to have something easier to compare with the original for
> proof-reading, rather than to repoduce the pages, which are quite
> elegant and legible enough already.
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Best
>
> Giles
>
> From: Graham King <lilyp...@tremagi.org.uk>
> Sent: 07 May 2024 14:19
> To: Giles Boardman <giles.board...@hotmail.co.uk>; lilypond-
> u...@gnu.org <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
> Subject: Re: Spacing in mensural notation
> I had a similar question a while back [1], which Harm kindly solved.
> Try something like this (it should work in older versions of
> lilypond):
>
> %~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> \version "2.23.10"
>
>
> \header {
> title = "Odhekaton"
> composer = "Obrecht"
> piece = "Alto"
>
> }
>
> \paper { ragged-right = ##t }
>
> \score {
> \new MensuralVoice = "alto" {
> \clef "petrucci-c2"
> \time 2/2
> %\set Score.timing = ##f
>
> \override NoteHead.style = #'petrucci
> % \override SpacingSpanner.base-shortest-duration =
> #(ly:make-moment 1/4)
> % \override Score.SpacingSpanner.strict-note-spacing = ##t
> \override Score.SpacingSpanner.spacing-increment = 1
> \override Score.SpacingSpanner.base-shortest-duration =
> #(ly:make-moment -3)
> \override Score.SpacingSpanner.common-shortest-duration =
> #(ly:make-moment 8)
>
> %% play around with below, probably useful are settings between 2
> and ~10
> \override Score.SpacingSpanner.shortest-duration-space = #3
>
> \hide Score.BarNumber {
> \cadenzaOn
> d'\breve
> c'\breve
> \[ d'1\melisma f'1. \melismaEnd \]
>
> e'2 d'1 c'1. d'2 e'1 f'2. e'4 f'4 g'4 a'1 g'4 f'4 e'2
> d'1 c'2 d'1. c'4 b4 c'\longa
> }
> }
> }
>
> \layout { }
> %~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> To my eye, the COP ligature is still taking too much space, but I
> hope
> this is a good start.
>
> -- Graham
>
>
> [1]
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2019-10/msg00454.html
>
> On Tue, 2024-05-07 at 09:18 +0000, Giles Boardman wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I am new to Lilypond, cutting my teeth on a couple of pretty simple
> > layouts - this exercise is to reproduce a page of a Petrucci
> > score.....
> >
> >
> > I'm thrilled with this ....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > .... but I would like to remove the space from around the notes and
> > bunch them up like in the original. I tried a couple of things I
> > found that looked relevant - they're commented out in my snippet -
> > and "\compressEmptyMeasures" but to no avail .....
> >
> > \version "2.18.2"
> >
> >
> > \header {
> > title = "Odhekaton"
> > composer = "Obrecht"
> > piece = "Alto"
> >
> > }
> >
> > \score {
> >
> > <<
> > \new MensuralVoice = "alto" {
> > \clef "petrucci-c2"
> > \time 2/2
> >
> > \override NoteHead.style = #'petrucci
> > % \override SpacingSpanner.base-shortest-duration = #(ly:make-
> moment
> > 1/4)
> > % \override Score.SpacingSpanner.strict-note-spacing = ##t
> > \hide Score.BarNumber {
> >
> > d'\breve
> > c'\breve
> > \[ d'1\melisma f'1. \melismaEnd \]
> >
> > e'2 d'1 c'1. d'2 e'1 f'2. e'4 f'4 g'4 a'1 g'4 f'4 e'2 d'1 c'2 d'1.
> > c'4 b4 c'\longa
> >
> > }
> > }
> >
> > >>
> > }
> >
> > \layout { }
> > \midi { }
> >
> >
> > Any help, gratefully received.
> >
> > By the way, I know it's not a Lilypond question, but if anyone can
> > tell me how to interpret "Verte"(?) that would be a help too.
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> > Giles
> >
> > PS I have a brand new installation on Windows 11 too if there is a
> > more recent feature required to make this work. All my other
> related
> > software is on this Windows 8.1 machine, so I use it for
> preference.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
