On 2018/04/30 22:19:12, Carl wrote:
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Documentation/learning/fundamental.itely:465: optionally followed by
one or more
post-events. Post-events add On 2018/04/30 21:49:37, thomasmorley651 wrote: > I'd completely delete 'post-event'. > From a musical thinking it makes no sense. An articulation is not
performed
> _after_ the note. > To explain it programmatical, this is not the right place, imho. > > Why not simply: > > "A note entry in LilyPond consists of a pitch, followed by a
duration,
> optionally followed by things such as articulations, fingerings,
string
numbers, > slurs, ties, explanatory text, etc."
We could do this. But ultimately all the things that attach to notes
like this
are called post-events in the internals reference. So I don't think
it's a bad
idea to introduce the LilyPond term here, just like we do for pitch
and
duration. All three terms (pitch, duration, post-event) are LilyPond
terms, not
musical terms.
Pitch and duration are surely terms every musician and every music-typesetter will know, they are _musical_ terms as well. Not so post-event. Maybe it would be sufficient to reword: "optionally followed by one or more elements, which are called "post-events". https://codereview.appspot.com/343060043/diff/40001/Documentation/learning/fundamental.itely#newcode481
Documentation/learning/fundamental.itely:481: Post-events follow the
note to
which they are attached. Suppose we On 2018/04/30 21:49:37, thomasmorley651 wrote: > > Here as well. > > Also, I think it's important to drop a sentence about the "-"-signs,
which
> actually attach those optional elements to the note. > > So my suggestion: > > "Optional elements are added at the end of the initial
note-duration-entry.
> Probably using a "-"-sign, which can be omitted, if no ambiguity
occurs.
> Suppose we ..." > >
I don't think I agree that things are attached with "-" signs. For
example,
\staccato, \mordent, \turn, \fermata, \prall, (, [. None of these are
attached
with "-" signs, although they can have a direction indicator (-, _ ,
^)
preceding them if desired. At least, that is what the N.R. 5.4.2
says. Here the NR is not entirely complete. "_" and "^" _are_ direction-modifiers, ofcourse. "-" _is_ the method to insert a post-event into a list of other post-events. For convenience it can be omitted, if no ambiguity is present. (It can't be omitted before a fingering, for example) The direction of this post-event is the default-direction for said post-event. But this more a side-effect. Also, see: { \displayLilyMusic c'\tenuto } => c'4--
If we want to talk about direction indicators here, I think we can
give a brief
introduction. If not, I think we should leave them out completely.
Agreed, direction-modifiers shouldn't be explained here in the fundamentals.
In the LM and the NR, the direction indicators are always included when we add
the
post-events, if they are needed.
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Documentation/learning/fundamental.itely:488: {c'8-1--(~^\markup{"text annotation"} c' d')} On 2018/04/30 21:49:37, thomasmorley651 wrote: > > For the sake of simplicity I'd not use direction-modifiers and enter
the text
> without explicit \markup, i.e.: > {c'8-1--(~-"text annotation" c' d')}
I think it's actually nicer not to have so many "-" characters; they
make it
confusing, in my opinion.
Ofcourse, but I don't understand the relevance here. {c'8-1--(~-"text annotation" c' d')} does not use more "-" than the other code. Btw, maybe better to add a space after { and before }. https://codereview.appspot.com/343060043/ _______________________________________________ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel