2008/10/24 Valentin Villenave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 2008/10/24 Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > If we're keeping track (informally) of user requests for certain > features, > > you can add my name to the list of users who'll make good use of arrowed > > accidentals. > > Yeah, I had the feeling you'd be interested :-)
:-) > > > However, the other feature request I mentioned in the tracker (same > link) was the support for non-quartertones micro-intervals. Han Wen > made me realize this was already possible (and used in makam.ly for > instance), but from a user's point of view, we have'nt convenient > shortcuts/interface/implementation/whatever to specify, say a > third-tone or a sixth-tone whenever you need it. > > So, this side of the question remains: how would *you* be able to use > microtones, without typing lines of Scheme code? Do you have any > concept in mind (code-wise)? > Good point. OK, ideally I'd like something like this added to english.ly: cs'16 % normal C-sharp csu'16 % C-sharp with up-arrow csd'16 % C-sharp with down-arrow bf'16 % normal B-flat bfu'16 % B-flat with up-arrow bfd'16 % B-flat with down-arrow and also ... cqs'16 % normal (ie, exact) C-quartersharp cqsu'16 % C-quartersharp with up-arrow cqsd'16 % C-quatersharp with down-arrow etc. That's how I would, ideally, like to access the arrowed accidentals. Would be very slick, indeed. Just a -d (for 'down') or -u (for 'up') appended to the complete set of all existing accidental input names. Third-tones, sixth-tones, eighth-tones and the like are a different matter. There's no generally accepted set of glyphs for exact microtones other than quartertones (at least at the moment). And I think that fact -- which has to do with the current state of contemporary scores and contemporary notation (rather than with the state of LilyPond development) -- will make it difficult to decide what a LilyPond input scheme should look like for those values. So I don't have any snappy ideas in mind for what input syntax for sixth-tones and eighth-tones might look like. I'd just be thrilled if we could get the arrowed accidentals in there using some input system like the one above. Oh, and two sidenotes: 1. When I use arrowed accidentals in my own scores, I use them to mean "ever so slightly sharp (flat) of the specified pitch". That is, I use arrowed accidentals as *inexact* (and small) inflections of pitch. Other composers use arrowed accidentals differently (sometimes, for example, electing -- confusingly -- to use arrowed accidentals to represent *exact* quartertone values). But I think we can make a pretty good case that the growing consensus in contemporary scores is to use Lily's existing microtone glyphs for *exact* quartertone values (and to use arrowed accidentals as inexact inflections). 2. I don't personally care about the MIDI realization of arrowed accidentals. This falls out of #1, above, because I'm using the arrowed glyphs as inflectional values only. Did that help answer the question, Valentin? I kinda feel like I may have missed the actual question. If so, please correct! Trevor. -- Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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