I'm not a ref but the answers are yes and yes. The difference between Gerrard and Messi was that Gerrard didn't roll around like he'd been shot after the challenge.
The ref could have deemed that the challenge was dangerous and given a free kick (therefore pen) regardless of contact made. I guess he could also have booked Gerrard for 'simulation', but still given the pen too. The thing they need to decide is whether the victim was caught, and if not if they were just getting out of the way of the challenge. If neither and they feigned contact it's a booking, but that doesn't negate the initial offence of dangerous play. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:leedslist- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 31 May 2006 10:58 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LU] NON LU: gerrard a diver? > > >Also, when Del Horno was expelled during chelsea - barca game lots of > >people called Messi a diver, however justice was done that time too > >surely? I mean he jumped to avoid a two legged assault from Del Horno. > > Ref on the list, please! Am I correct in thinking that a player can be > sent off for a dangerous challenge, even if he doesn't make contact? On > the flip side, if a player makes a dangerous challenge without making > contact, but the "victim" dives - what happens then? Can the "victim" be > disciplined? > > Gaffer > > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators > accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > Hello Andy, most observant of you! _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist Hello Andy, most observant of you!
