thanks everyone for your ideas!

Brad
 
funny you should mention DOS, their order entry/invoicing is twenty 
100-400MHz pentiums 4meg ram vga running 6.22 with peer to peer little 
big lan 10baseT and xbase. 7am-6pm six days a week and they never quit!
A dozen 2GB windows machines on a 100baseT do internet and windoz 
apps and they lock up all the time! 

no need to change the tvs100 and we have a formatted spare hd for it. 
both cabs are full out with did, cid, 20 co's(+4did), 64 sta's, a bunch 
of dss for speed dial buttons (remember that -3 to -4 "upgrade" ;-)
it is possible they will outgrow this config, but we're ready for that, 
just add a another master/slave for dept 2, and let dept 1 have the orig m/s.
(fyi, dept 3 is on a m/s with a tvs-50 ;-) if this happens, everything 
goes to -6 because the money will be there!

"The 1232 is capable of T1, 24 pots max"- try 24 ds0's and 8pots (=32 co's), 
you never used a 187 card, the ds0 channels are screwed up and doesn't 
support TR-0008!  the PRI card has it's own set of problems. the 187 is 
framed, on my office wall to remind me of the hundreds of hours that pos 
cost us, not counting the $8K of channel bank stuff in the warehouse to 
support it. at least we didn't loose the customer.  pano doesn't do 
standards very well.

i can add much more battery, but i'm at limit with building codes for 
outgassing and acid spills, expensive vents and drains.  18 story building, 
has a 100kva emergency plant, but everyone else thinks they should have a 
connection too ;-)      

we figure 3 year growth on our installs, which usually coincides with their 
lease.  besides, if they outgrow much earlier, they can afford the ksu swap. 

Tim

the tvs100 is doing fine, it's just vm, no aa.  just that it can't talk to 
sta's on the slave when it's out of sync.  thank god all the co's and sta's 
still work within each cab, and the dept's don't share co's, otherwise this 
install would have been history 4 years ago.  

half of our m/s installs are still running P101E (-1) and with 1 hr bbu they 
work great, it's just this one install with all the sta programming that's a 
real bear to get restarted. in fact, it is impossible to sync without pulling 
the 25 pair connector we added that has all the co's to both cabs.  (we tried 
the 5 versions we have of -4, no change ;-) 

Charles

i guess going to -6 is the real answer, but a second tvs would be so much 
easier.
i need to find where the guys have the field spare, get it back and m/s it with 
the shop spare. take two 7456s, manual, and test EVERY feature the 7456 can do.

it's just that horrible feeling i get when i do an off hours upgrade, and five 
minutes into the new workday, the boss shows up wanting to know why he can't do 
xxxxx anymore!  are our customers spoiled, sure, but that's our motto, the phone
system should be working for you, not you for it! 

again, thanks for everyone's considered thoughts!

-larry 

ps never had a response from anyone around dallas that wants to maintain a DBS.






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