Great idea! Maybe this is just what the kr community needs to stimulate
interest in our group. I'm in!!! Thanks for stepping up!!!

On Wed, May 5, 2021, 11:57 AM Guy Maniscalco <nisca...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I am currently building a KR2S in Northern Idaho. I do not yet have my
> pilot's license, but as I get closer to finishing the plane I will work on
> the license. I am not ready to commit to your proposition right now, but in
> the near future it may be the right thing for me to do. It certainly sounds
> enticing.
>
> Guy Maniscalco
>
> ________________________________
> From: mitch bushnell via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 8:47 AM
> To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org>
> Cc: mitch bushnell <lil...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: KR>Re: KR Trainer
>
> Awesome idea, I hope you guys can get this accomplished.
>
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>
>
>   On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 9:24 AM, Kevin Stolhammer<kstolham...@gmail.com>
> wrote:   I will support this.  There are no tailwheels available for
> training around
> here (eastern WA).  My KR 1 is finally ready now, just completed my bfr, in
> a 172.  Two aircraft could hardly be more different...
> Kevin Stolhammer
>
> On Wed, May 5, 2021, 6:36 AM victor taylor via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hello KR builders,
> > An opportunity to put together a trainer has come up. I spoke with Mark
> > and he is onboard with this idea. I am willing to buy and set up a KR2
> for
> > training and get an exemption from the FAA so we can legally train in it.
> > The airplane needs to be totally self sufficient to make this happen. The
> > airplane would be based near Mobile Alabama. Myself and Jeff Scott were
> > former Velocity Aircraft transition flight instructors and know how to
> set
> > up a proper transition training program. If someone buys a KR it would be
> > different from someone who had built a KR. All in all though to properly
> > transition most people takes between 5 and 10 hours. So probably around a
> > thousand dollars for someone with no MR time.
> > Based on my conversation with Mark Langford I’m ready to do this if we
> > have the interest.
> > The aircraft needs to make enough money to repay the debt over time while
> > paying for its own hangar rent and maintenance.
> > We could also give demo flights in it. Availability of training would
> push
> > the value of existing KR’s up and lower insurance rates so it would
> benefit
> > the whole community.
> > Can I get a show of hands of those who would be interested in training,
> > flight reviews etc? Please give your opinion even if you wouldn’t need
> this
> > training.
> >
> > Victor Taylor
> > CFII
> >
> >
> >
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> > >  1. Re: Jabiru 3300 engine? (Flesner)
> > >  2. Re: Jabiru 3300 engine? (Flesner)
> > >  3. Re: Jabiru 3300 engine? (Flesner)
> > >  4. Re: Jabiru 3300 engine? (Jeff Scott)
> > >
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> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 07:26:34 -0500
> > > From: Flesner <fles...@frontier.com>
> > > Subject: KR>Re: Jabiru 3300 engine?
> > > To: krnet@list.krnet.org
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> > >> On 5/1/2021 10:27 PM, Jeff Scott wrote:
> > >> This is a common issue with the Jabiru.
> > >
> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >
> > > Thanks, Jeff.  I knew someone out there had the answer.
> > >
> > > Larry Flesner
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 07:53:01 -0500
> > > From: Flesner <fles...@frontier.com>
> > > Subject: KR>Re: Jabiru 3300 engine?
> > > To: krnet@list.krnet.org
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> > >
> > >> On 5/1/2021 10:27 PM, Jeff Scott wrote:
> > >> This is a common issue with the Jabiru. ex pretty easily.
> > >> -Jeff Scott
> > >
> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >
> > > Jeff,
> > >
> > > Do you recall the amount of MMO they were running in the 3300 that
> > > checked well?  4 oz to 10 gallon of fuel is recommended but I run 4 oz
> > > to 5 gallon in the 0-200 and a bit in the crankcase at oil change time.
> > >
> > > Larry Flesner
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 07:55:30 -0500
> > > From: Flesner <fles...@frontier.com>
> > > Subject: KR>Re: Jabiru 3300 engine?
> > > To: krnet@list.krnet.org
> > > Message-ID: <70e5d87a-91ad-3d78-e516-da57a44f3...@frontier.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> > >
> > >> On 5/1/2021 10:27 PM, Jeff Scott wrote:
> > >> This is a common issue with the Jabiru.
> > >> -Jeff Scott
> > >
> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >
> > > I forgot to mention that he leans aggressively, even on taxi, and his
> > > plugs run clean with no deposits.  Engine has approx 350 hours TT.
> > >
> > > Larry Flesner
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 15:46:32 +0200
> > > From: Jeff Scott <jscott.pla...@gmx.com>
> > > Subject: KR>Re: Jabiru 3300 engine?
> > > To: krnet@list.krnet.org
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> > >> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 at 7:53 AM
> > >> From: "Flesner" <fles...@frontier.com>
> > >> To: krnet@list.krnet.org
> > >> Subject: KR>Re: Jabiru 3300 engine?
> > >>
> > >>> On 5/1/2021 10:27 PM, Jeff Scott wrote:
> > >>> This is a common issue with the Jabiru. ex pretty easily.
> > >>> -Jeff Scott
> > >>
> > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >>
> > >> Jeff,
> > >>
> > >> Do you recall the amount of MMO they were running in the 3300 that
> > >> checked well?  4 oz to 10 gallon of fuel is recommended but I run 4 oz
> > >> to 5 gallon in the 0-200 and a bit in the crankcase at oil change
> time.
> > >>
> > >> Larry Flesner
> > >
> > > I really don't recall.  I could send him a text later today and ask,
> but
> > 4 oz sounds about right.  MMO seems to soften the lead deposits causing
> > them to slough more easily and lessening lead build up in the engine.
> Lead
> > build up in an engine is a constant process where the lead is always
> > building and sloughing away.  I once checked a fresh engine 2 hours
> after I
> > had overhauled it and was quite surprised by the amount of lead that had
> > already built on top of the pistons.
> > >
> > > Leaning helps to avoid excess deposits, but leaded fuel will always
> > deposit lead on any exposed surface as it burns. TetraEthylLead is used
> to
> > not only boost octane, but as a sacrificial metal intended to deposit
> > between the valve face and valve seat to prevent valve face/seat erosion
> > due to the valve and seat faces exchanging metals while hot.  Newer,
> > hardened seats and valves no longer require lead to protect them.  In the
> > Jabiru engines, it seems to cause static valve seating issues.  But, if
> you
> > checked the engine with a boroscope, you wouldn't see any signs of uneven
> > heating or burning of the exhaust valves, so they are not leaking
> > dynamically as that would cause the valves to burn and fail, which would
> be
> > obvious with a boroscope.  It's just something that shows up on a static
> > differential compression test.  So, to assure the mechanic that all is
> > actually OK, the mechanic stakes the valves and finds the compression
> > readings recover to normal.  It's really not an actual problem with the
> > engine itself.  I suspect part of this may come from the Jabirus having
> > small valves and light valve springs, which is actually a good thing.
> > >
> > > -Jeff Scott
> > > Arkansas Ozarks
> > >
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