I would most definitely be interested! I’m not sure how easy it would be to get 
to Alabama, but I definitely like the idea!

Allie Palmer
N422AB (in progress) KR2S 

> On May 5, 2021, at 09:36, victor taylor via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hello KR builders, 
> An opportunity to put together a trainer has come up. I spoke with Mark and 
> he is onboard with this idea. I am willing to buy and set up a KR2 for 
> training and get an exemption from the FAA so we can legally train in it. The 
> airplane needs to be totally self sufficient to make this happen. The 
> airplane would be based near Mobile Alabama. Myself and Jeff Scott were 
> former Velocity Aircraft transition flight instructors and know how to set up 
> a proper transition training program. If someone buys a KR it would be 
> different from someone who had built a KR. All in all though to properly 
> transition most people takes between 5 and 10 hours. So probably around a 
> thousand dollars for someone with no MR time. 
> Based on my conversation with Mark Langford I’m ready to do this if we have 
> the interest. 
> The aircraft needs to make enough money to repay the debt over time while 
> paying for its own hangar rent and maintenance.
> We could also give demo flights in it. Availability of training would push 
> the value of existing KR’s up and lower insurance rates so it would benefit 
> the whole community.
> Can I get a show of hands of those who would be interested in training, 
> flight reviews etc? Please give your opinion even if you wouldn’t need this 
> training.
> 
> Victor Taylor
> CFII
> 
> 
> 
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>>  4. Re: Jabiru 3300 engine? (Jeff Scott)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 07:26:34 -0500
>> From: Flesner <fles...@frontier.com>
>> Subject: KR>Re: Jabiru 3300 engine?
>> To: krnet@list.krnet.org
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>>>> On 5/1/2021 10:27 PM, Jeff Scott wrote:
>>> This is a common issue with the Jabiru.
>> 
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> 
>> Thanks, Jeff.  I knew someone out there had the answer.
>> 
>> Larry Flesner
>> 
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 07:53:01 -0500
>> From: Flesner <fles...@frontier.com>
>> Subject: KR>Re: Jabiru 3300 engine?
>> To: krnet@list.krnet.org
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>>>> On 5/1/2021 10:27 PM, Jeff Scott wrote:
>>> This is a common issue with the Jabiru. ex pretty easily.
>>> -Jeff Scott
>> 
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> 
>> Jeff,
>> 
>> Do you recall the amount of MMO they were running in the 3300 that 
>> checked well?  4 oz to 10 gallon of fuel is recommended but I run 4 oz 
>> to 5 gallon in the 0-200 and a bit in the crankcase at oil change time.
>> 
>> Larry Flesner
>> 
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>> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 07:55:30 -0500
>> From: Flesner <fles...@frontier.com>
>> Subject: KR>Re: Jabiru 3300 engine?
>> To: krnet@list.krnet.org
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>>>> On 5/1/2021 10:27 PM, Jeff Scott wrote:
>>> This is a common issue with the Jabiru.
>>> -Jeff Scott
>> 
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> 
>> I forgot to mention that he leans aggressively, even on taxi, and his 
>> plugs run clean with no deposits.  Engine has approx 350 hours TT.
>> 
>> Larry Flesner
>> 
>> 
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 15:46:32 +0200
>> From: Jeff Scott <jscott.pla...@gmx.com>
>> Subject: KR>Re: Jabiru 3300 engine?
>> To: krnet@list.krnet.org
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>>> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 at 7:53 AM
>>> From: "Flesner" <fles...@frontier.com>
>>> To: krnet@list.krnet.org
>>> Subject: KR>Re: Jabiru 3300 engine?
>>> 
>>>> On 5/1/2021 10:27 PM, Jeff Scott wrote:
>>>> This is a common issue with the Jabiru. ex pretty easily.
>>>> -Jeff Scott
>>> 
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> 
>>> Jeff,
>>> 
>>> Do you recall the amount of MMO they were running in the 3300 that 
>>> checked well?  4 oz to 10 gallon of fuel is recommended but I run 4 oz 
>>> to 5 gallon in the 0-200 and a bit in the crankcase at oil change time.
>>> 
>>> Larry Flesner
>> 
>> I really don't recall.  I could send him a text later today and ask, but 4 
>> oz sounds about right.  MMO seems to soften the lead deposits causing them 
>> to slough more easily and lessening lead build up in the engine.  Lead build 
>> up in an engine is a constant process where the lead is always building and 
>> sloughing away.  I once checked a fresh engine 2 hours after I had 
>> overhauled it and was quite surprised by the amount of lead that had already 
>> built on top of the pistons.  
>> 
>> Leaning helps to avoid excess deposits, but leaded fuel will always deposit 
>> lead on any exposed surface as it burns. TetraEthylLead is used to not only 
>> boost octane, but as a sacrificial metal intended to deposit between the 
>> valve face and valve seat to prevent valve face/seat erosion due to the 
>> valve and seat faces exchanging metals while hot.  Newer, hardened seats and 
>> valves no longer require lead to protect them.  In the Jabiru engines, it 
>> seems to cause static valve seating issues.  But, if you checked the engine 
>> with a boroscope, you wouldn't see any signs of uneven heating or burning of 
>> the exhaust valves, so they are not leaking dynamically as that would cause 
>> the valves to burn and fail, which would be obvious with a boroscope.  It's 
>> just something that shows up on a static differential compression test.  So, 
>> to assure the mechanic that all is actually OK, the mechanic stakes the 
>> valves and finds the compression readings recover to normal.  It's really 
>> not an actual problem with the engine itself.  I suspect part of this may 
>> come from the Jabirus having small valves and light valve springs, which is 
>> actually a good thing.
>> 
>> -Jeff Scott
>> Arkansas Ozarks
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