Regrettably I live in Dallas with this huge upside down wedding cake above my
head... I share a C150 with a buddy and it has a uAvionix and its priced at
what Jeff quoted. I too am looking at my KR2 and wondering what I am going to
do once I start flying it. I may have to share the ADSB unit with the Cessna
but not sure how that will work... My original plan was to change my call sign
to traffic helicopter 21Alpha and fly as low as I can till I am out from under
the vail... I also planned not to get caught...
Anonymous in DallasSky Chopper 21A
On Monday, October 28, 2019, 08:12:33 PM CDT, Jeff Scott via KRnet
<krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:
I have installed and worked with a number of ADS-B units. My planes currently
have Skyguard units, which currently run roughly $1300 per unit, or $1200 per
unit for Out Only. I can't recommend them any more. I have had 5 years worth
of problems with them. I had so many problems and did so much R&D and flight
testing for the manufacturer that he gave me a second unit just for my
troubles.
The 1090-ES units that are part of a new transponder installation typically
work best. It's hard to go wrong with Garmin... but it's also hard to afford
them. They cost a lot of $$. Any transponder solution is typically going to
start around $3500 and up.
The reason I posted the recommendation for the uAvionix Echo-UAT unit is that I
just finished the installation of a uAvionix TailBeacon TSO unit and am
impressed with the uAvionix units. They are simple, and they work. The
current package sale on the unit puts it at $1399 complete. With free
shipping, that's your price and you install it yourself. I bought it using my
EAA credit card which dropped the price with the discount to $1329 with
everything included. I don't think you will find another complete in and out
solution for that price... and the uAvionics stuff actually works.
I always used to go by the big sky theory. Figured the chances of a mid-air in
the remote areas I flew in NM were pretty remote. Then one day at 10,500' in
the middle of nowhere, I got a very close up look at a Piper Arrow while I
maneuvered hard enough miss it that I launched everything in the cockpit into
the top of the canopy. Close call. I only had a second or two to react to
miss him, and I don't think he ever saw me. So yeah, I kind of view it as a
big bonus to know where the traffic is around me, and for them to be able to
see what I'm at. I rarely fly in class C & D airspace any more, and aptly
demonstrated how rusty I am with ATC yesterday while at a Class C airport.
Sounds like you have your head cut in, and I'm not likely to convince you
otherwise. It's legal for you to fly without, so do so if that's your choice.
I posted the information for those that are interested or need to equip. FWIW,
I used to fly the west side of the Cascades based out of Toledo, WA. There's a
lot more traffic running up and down the west side than you think.
-Jeff Scott
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> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 at 7:41 PM
> From: "Samuel Spanovich via KRnet" <krnet@list.krnet.org>
> To: krnet@list.krnet.org
> Cc: "Samuel Spanovich" <spanovich...@gmail.com>
> Subject: KR> ADS-B opinions/recommendations
>
> I dreaded this moment (Jan 1st, 2020) when I purchased my airplane almost 18
> months ago, but fortunately the mandate did not stop me from becoming a KR
> owner. Now, with the deadline approaching, I’m just looking for some
> opinions out there on adding ADS-B out.
>
> Here’s where I stand; I do not take many long trips in the KR, and when I do,
> they are generally not in the areas where Mode C is required. I think I can
> count on one hand the number of times I’ve flown into class C in the KR2S,
> and I’ve only ever flown in class B once and it was in a Cessna 172 with two
> other pilots on board. Only one time have I flown the KR2S above 10k feet,
> mostly due to curiosity of how high I could get near gross on a 90F day (in
> short, it was about 11k MSL), while also putting as much room between me and
> the Cascade mountains as the plane would let me. And finally, as for the
> Mode C Veils (30NM from Class B airports), I’m willing to change my routing a
> little bit and avoid these areas, if it means saving some money.
>
> Everybody’s situation is different, but for me personally, unless I’m missing
> the big picture of the mandate, given my current situation, I don’t see a
> reason to follow through with the mandate, especially in a small aircraft
> like the KR2S. I understand it’s almost a minimum of $1500-2000 to add just
> the “out” option. That’s a fair amount of green for such an affordable
> aircraft, for something that I will very rarely, if ever, truly “need” on
> board.
>
> If it’s not too much to ask, for those of you out there with the ADS-B
> equipment installed, would you mind sharing what brand you went with, and a
> rough estimate of what it cost? I have looked on several different websites
> and the cheapest “out” options I’ve found are around $1500-2000. If there
> was an option that was in the $500-$1000 range, I would probably reconsider
> and make it a Xmas present.
>
> Any input (as always) is greatly appreciated!
>
> Sam
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