Guys, I guess that I'm in the mood to throw my pennies into the pot here. I have the exact set up that is being talked about here and have no problem with it for low pressure or CG management. I have in fact been testing max climb angles and durations at those angles. I don't have the info in front of me but I can tell you for sure that I have been getting close to straight up. This morning was 75 deg for sure. I make sure that the header is full when I am doing this and with the 3100 it will climb pretty long before the speed bleeds down to where I push it over. I took it down to 65mph indicated today. the fuel pressure indicated .6# yet then. As far as the CG and transferring fuel from the wing tanks it really doesn't add much work load. On X-C flights I transfer fuel once per hour. In other words I turn on the pump. It takes 15 to 20 min. to refill the header to full and I repeat at 1 hour after the header was full. I use very little trim adjustment if any during these cycles usually only adjust the trim if I need to let go of the stick to work with maps or something that I need both hands for. I have flown down to 4 gal left in the header tank and for my plane again the Cg does not seem to be an issue. Yes it is a little more but nothing that is not well with in the trim limitations. I actually feel more need to adjust trim from speed or power changes than anything else. As for fuel in the cockpit I put that into the personal comfort decision. I am not bothered with it having the header tank. My personal idea was if I have to worry about the fuel tank being ruptured I have a lot of other problems to deal with or maybe not to have to worry about at all anymore. I did have a CG just slightly ahead of the forward limit form the beginning and it most likely a little bit further forward with the equipment that has been added over the past year. I know that my CG is well in front of the last 2" of the rear limit. Bottom line is the 2S is a very stable platform and both systems of carrying fuel will work well. I vote no on the header tank only also. It just reduces the options that you may need some day. Joe Horton, Coopersburg, Pa. joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
> > "Keeping the header tank"...yes, as long as you also have wing tanks > or a > fuselage fuel cell like Bill mentioned. Header tank ONLY, I'd vote > no. > With wing tanks only, the CG changes very little throughout the > flight. > Mine moves a little more than an inch, but if I had a only header > tank it > would be at least double or triple that (depending on the size of > the tank). > And with wing tanks the CG moves more forward as you fly, unlike the > header > tank which moves the CG aft as you fly. Forward CGs make it easier > to fly, > and easier to land. Landing is not the time when you want an aft > CG. Bill > addresses that by moving fuel to the header, but that means you > either land > with extra fuel, or if you make a long flight with very little > reserve, you > land with a CG that would be aft of where it would be with wing > tanks only. > > As for gravity being reliable using a gravity feed carb, that's only > partly > true in my mind. Gravity feed carbs rely on head pressure alone, > and when > climbing with a header tank, head pressure is going to be reduced > during > climbout as compared to level flight, which is not the time to be > running > lean. Apparently the Aerocarb is set up to run at really low > pressures, so > Bill's runs fine, but I've heard stories of some carbs running > leaner on > climbout than in level flight. And with only gravity feed, clogged > filters > or other obstructions can make a huge difference. With pumps there > is a lot > more "headroom" for such things. That's not to say that there > aren't a lot > of KRs flying around with header tanks only though. > > I do think that if you've got a gravity feed carb feed (or even a > regular > float bowl or pressure carb), a small header tank (used in > conjunction with > wing tanks) which you keep full all the time is probably a good > idea. But > you'd need to rig an automatic pump system to keep it full, a > warning to > tell you when it's not, and an overflow back to the tank for when > something > goes wrong and the pump doesn't shut off when it's supposed to. I > think Ron > Eason made something similar, as well as Don Reid and others. This > makes > sense, if you don't mind fuel in the cockpit. > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama