Wow!!!!!!!

Bob Glidden
Eminence,Indiana
KR2S N181FW (building)
Corvair 110
glid...@ccrtc.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "D F Lively" <riksh...@interl.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Subaru engines


> Netters:
>
> You raised some valid questions.  I have looked @ Subies and observed that 
> they
> get Max torque somewhere in the low 4000s rpm range and Max power at say 
> the
> mid 5000s rpm range.  Almost all would requre a PSRU because their bearing 
> wont
> take the prop pull.  I would say that running that engine at max torque 
> for a
> redline might have some durability issues as most in cars driver at 
> highway
> speeds run in the 3000 rpm range so my thoughts are that limitting the 
> revs to
> the mid or upper 3000s would be prudent and a PSRU ratio to give a prop 
> rpm in
> the 2700 to 3000 range appropriate for durability.  Whether this would 
> leed to
> adequate power availability I can not say.  What I liked about the Subi is 
> the
> fact it is liquid cooled which would be nice for cabin heat with NO or a 
> very
> limited risk of CO poisoning.
>
> I think one must look at the RPM settings of the design and the PSRU 
> ratios
> involved to evaluate engine logevity becuse clearly running an engine at 
> or
> above its max torque RPM will surely work a hardship on engine life as a
> general rule.
>
> My opinion from a reasoned judgement not from experience or personal 
> knowledge.
>
> IT is a Safe bet that neither the Corvair or VW based engines will last as 
> many
> hours as they do normally if ran "Flat Out" either.
>
>
> Don
>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Mark Langford wrote:
>
>> Fred Johnson wrote:
>>
>> > Hey Mark, since it is so quiet today, do you know of anyone 
>> > successfully
>> > using either a Subaru or Geo engine in a KR?
>>
>> Steve Makish and Bob Lester have a lot of hours on a Subaru (don't know
>> exactly which one).  They were big proponents until Steve wore his case 
>> out
>> a couple of times at about 300 hours.  His opinion is that they can't 
>> take
>> the RPMs, and are not worth the trouble.  He's now flying a Corvair. 
>> He's
>> not on the list but his email address is srmak...@aol.com if want to 
>> email
>> him direct and ask his opinion.
>>
>> Yes Ken Thomas also had a Subaru and is now running a Jabiru, and is 
>> happy
>> with it.  Dave Stroud weighed a Subaru engine installation firewall 
>> forward
>> and came up with 285 pounds, substantially more than "they" tell you 
>> it'll
>> weigh. The Corvair is about 245, by comparison.
>>
>> My 2 cents worth, but I've never flown behind a Subaru, so take it for 
>> what
>> it's worth...
>>
>> Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
>> see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
>> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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