Peter, thank you a lot for this very comprehensive answer, it really explained 
me the things I just had thought.
Please, pass my wishes to your friend for his helpful letter.

BR,
Alex Birca,
Moldova

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of 
StRaNgEdAyS
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 1:13 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: RE: KR> Foam type


Alex,
Here is an answer to your foam query offered by a friend of mine who happens to 
be a well respected aeronautical engineer and manufacturer.

"The answer to your question is simply based on how the foam is used and what 
you hope it will do for you. I am assuming that in the construction you 
describe you are envisioning a construction process similar to that used by the 
Vari-Ezs and others, where the foam acts primarily as the shape plug, which you 
then cover with a structural material.

In that application the purpose of the foam is to provide aerodynamic shaping 
and to provide surface stability for the covering materials, in order to reduce 
the chance of buckling or localized crippling when the structure is under load. 
There will be some loading in shear within the structures and so any 
application should be analysed in order to verify that the application is 
within the realm of the material selection.

As a general answer though, the loads tend to be very small in this case and so 
the bond achieved between the epoxy and the foam should be more than enough. 
There is however a misconception in your post - the strength of this structure 
is not based on the foam "absorbing" the epoxy. As a matter of fact you 
actually do not want this to happen as this will make the structure 
substantially heavier. This is why the extruded foams are preferred to the 
expanded ball styrofoams - they tend to be stronger with more surface 
stability, they shape and/or sand easier, and they do not absorb needless 
amounts of resin.

Yes, the laminate will peel off the surface quite readily, but in service peel 
is not the type of loading you see. If designed correctly, there will be no 
exposed foam edges from which the surface covering could separate - the entire 
foam substructure is enclosed in the composite shell.

But the bottom line in all this is the proper design of the wing. The foam is 
not structural beyond providing surface backing to the structural shell and a 
moderate amount of shear resistance. In a normal wing the shear resistance is 
provided by the ribs so the loads are concentrated just in the area where the 
rib flange contacts the skin. In a foam cored wing, the skin is in full contact 
with the foam interior and thus the large amount of surface adhesion results in 
very low shear loading.

In order for the structure to behave predictably, it will be important to 
design the wing in such a way that the primary loads are absorbed by the skin, 
any intermediate shear webs, and of course the built-in spar caps, and any 
loads transmitted to the foam are kept to a minimum. The details of all of this 
will be a function of the design requirements and the detailed engineering 
analysis."

I hope this helps you, and it should also provide some valuable info to others 
on the list. Cheers, Peter Bancks. stranged...@dodo.com.au 
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