How many of "these" are there to change? Not that the work itself will be massive, but putting a 'they' in the middle of a sentence does not make it easy to translate intuitively, I would think. If it's a consideration (it is for non-English users, at least).

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On 04/19/2017 01:16 PM, Jonathan Druart wrote:
The next step would be to provide a check to our QA tests to make sure we will not introduce future occurrences.
I am pretty sure they will not be caught manually by QAers.

On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 at 13:56 Eric Phetteplace <ephettepl...@cca.edu <mailto:ephettepl...@cca.edu>> wrote:

    Hi Paul,

    English has a singular "they". It doesn't suggest androgyny,
    either, from the definitions I've seen. For instance, Oxford
    English Dictionary:

    2. In anaphoric reference to a singular noun or pronoun of
    undetermined gender: he or she.

    The first usage example OED provides is from 1375. I don't think
    replacing "he" with "she" addresses the problem, it's still
    assuming a default gender. It's not too much tricker to search
    code for he/him & replace with they/them but that's also just an
    implementation issue, not a policy one.


    It sounds like people are otherwise supportive but I'm not sure
    what the next step should be.

    Best,
    Eric Phetteplace
    Systems Librarian
    California College of the Arts
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    <http://vault.cca.edu>
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    2>/dev/null

    On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Paul A
    <pau...@navalmarinearchive.com
    <mailto:pau...@navalmarinearchive.com>> wrote:

        On 2017-04-18 08:25 PM, Eric Phetteplace wrote:

            Hi list,

            I opened bug

        [snip]

            Before*:*

        "Kid growing and become a juvenile, he should pay "

            After:

        "Kid growing and become a juvenile, they should pay "

        Political correctness has never been my strong point (although
        I try to understand it), but I'm proficient in grammatical
        rigour. [1]

        "Kid" is a singular noun, "a" is a singular article -- "they"
        is a plural pronoun. Perhaps replace "they" with "[s]he"? or
        "Kids growing and becoming juveniles, they should pay"?

        From a code maintenance p.o.v., it's easier to find and
        replace 'he' with '[s]he' if really this becomes a priority
        for Koha.

        Best -- Paul

        [1] I am aware of the so-called "singular third person epicene
        'they'", but academically object to it -- it often suggests
        androgyny rather than gender neutrality.

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