Dear Colleagues, Why don't we just get rid of the pronouns all together with, "Kid growing and becoming a juvenile, that kid must pay"?
FWIW, Christopher Davis, MLS Systems & E-Services Librarian Uintah County Library cgda...@uintah.utah.gov (435) 789-0091 ext.261 uintahlibrary.org basinlibraries.org facebook.com/uintahcountylibrary instagram.com/uintahcountylibrary On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Eric Phetteplace <ephettepl...@cca.edu> wrote: > Hi Paul, > > English has a singular "they". It doesn't suggest androgyny, either, from > the definitions I've seen. For instance, Oxford English Dictionary: > > 2. In anaphoric reference to a singular noun or pronoun of undetermined > gender: he or she. > > The first usage example OED provides is from 1375. I don't think replacing > "he" with "she" addresses the problem, it's still assuming a default gender. > It's not too much tricker to search code for he/him & replace with they/them > but that's also just an implementation issue, not a policy one. > > > It sounds like people are otherwise supportive but I'm not sure what the > next step should be. > > Best, > Eric Phetteplace > Systems Librarian > California College of the Arts > libraries.cca.edu | vault.cca.edu > 510.594.3660 > 2>/dev/null > > On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Paul A <pau...@navalmarinearchive.com> > wrote: >> >> On 2017-04-18 08:25 PM, Eric Phetteplace wrote: >>> >>> Hi list, >>> >>> I opened bug >> >> [snip] >>> >>> Before*:* >> >> "Kid growing and become a juvenile, he should pay " >>> >>> After: >> >> "Kid growing and become a juvenile, they should pay " >> >> Political correctness has never been my strong point (although I try to >> understand it), but I'm proficient in grammatical rigour. [1] >> >> "Kid" is a singular noun, "a" is a singular article -- "they" is a plural >> pronoun. Perhaps replace "they" with "[s]he"? or "Kids growing and becoming >> juveniles, they should pay"? >> >> From a code maintenance p.o.v., it's easier to find and replace 'he' with >> '[s]he' if really this becomes a priority for Koha. >> >> Best -- Paul >> >> [1] I am aware of the so-called "singular third person epicene 'they'", >> but academically object to it -- it often suggests androgyny rather than >> gender neutrality. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Koha-devel mailing list >> Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org >> http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel >> website : http://www.koha-community.org/ >> git : http://git.koha-community.org/ >> bugs : http://bugs.koha-community.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Koha-devel mailing list > Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org > http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel > website : http://www.koha-community.org/ > git : http://git.koha-community.org/ > bugs : http://bugs.koha-community.org/ _______________________________________________ Koha-devel mailing list Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel website : http://www.koha-community.org/ git : http://git.koha-community.org/ bugs : http://bugs.koha-community.org/
