Let's start at the beginning. Are you clear on why symbols need to be remapped?
On 1/2/2018 2:52 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: > Honestly, with this symbol library stuff it's been hard for me to figure > out what's a bug and what's a confusing design decision. Bug reports for > the latter are rather frowned upon so I've been refraining from filing > many bugs. > > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 02:51:14PM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >> I just tested this repo and it failed to remap every symbol so either >> something has been broken or this project is a corner case that I >> haven't stumbled across yet. I will keep informed of my progress. In >> the future, please file bug report when you see something like this. If >> you just discuss it on irc, I have no way of knowing this is an issue >> unless I manage to free up some time (unlikely any time soon) to spend >> on irc. >> >> On 1/2/2018 2:42 PM, José Ignacio wrote: >>> This sequence of actions is what puts the project on a stuffed up state: >>> >>> * Open schematic and be greeted with some symbols that need rescue, >>> rescue a couple symbols >>> * Be greeted by the remap dialog (1) >>> * Regret remapping and quit without save >>> * Open schematic again >>> * Be greeted by the rescue dialog, with ALL symbols, refuse >>> * Remap dialog fails to find anything, click through (2) >>> >>> Schematic looks fine, but the remap and rescue dialogs will show up >>> every time even though there is a valid sym-lib-table. >>> >>> (1) At this point the pro file is overwritten, deleting all project >>> library entries >>> (2) At this point the pro file is overwritten again!, clobbering the >>> backup (SOL) >>> >>> If you accept the second rescue you will have to map everything >>> manually. The remapper should really take the existing sym-lib-table or >>> just not clobber the pro file until the schematic is saved. >>> >>> The close without save step should be perfectly valid if you're just >>> peeking at an old project and (possibly much later) you want to go >>> modify it you're greeted with that bad surprise. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 1:28 PM, Chris Pavlina <pavlina.ch...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:pavlina.ch...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 02:20:10PM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >>> > It's exactly as insane as the cache has always been. >>> >>> I respectfully disagree. As I recall from many years of using KiCad >>> before this, nothing about the cache has ever spontaneously deleted all >>> libraries without warning. That's a whole new level of insanity that >>> deserves its own "what not to do" section in a UX book somewhere. (And >>> before you think this is all just "this UX guide sez" vague complaining, >>> don't forget that I and many others still have _no idea wtf we're doing_ >>> trying to drive this thing.) >>> >>> > The only way I can >>> > think of this happening is that the schematic was not saved after the >>> > remapping and once all of the libraries are removed from the project >>> > file but cache should still be valid if no save was performed. Let me >>> > try remapping this project and I will get back to you. >>> > >>> > On 1/2/2018 2:08 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: >>> > > Ah, that explains my question mark case. That's insane. >>> > > >>> > > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 01:08:11PM -0600, José Ignacio wrote: >>> > >> One big problem is that even if everything fails, the project >>> will show up >>> > >> fine with all symbols, but they wont have the remap done. at >>> the same time >>> > >> the remapper deletes all library entries from the project file, >>> which >>> > >> causes it to open with question marks only if you reopen it >>> again after >>> > >> saving. It should show the question marks before then or make >>> better use of >>> > >> the cache. >>> > >> >>> > >> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Chris Pavlina >>> <pavlina.ch...@gmail.com <mailto:pavlina.ch...@gmail.com>> >>> > >> wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >>> Keep in mind my problem is not necessarily that things are >>> _broken_ but >>> > >>> perhaps that they are so opaque that they only make sense in >>> the mind of >>> > >>> the designer. As I said in the previous message, we've been >>> getting TONS >>> > >>> of people on IRC who can't figure out how the hell to drive >>> this thing, >>> > >>> and I count myself among them. Still takes me like three tries >>> to load >>> > >>> an old project without it stuffing everything up. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 01:40:40PM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >>> > >>>> Please send me a sample project if possible. I have tested >>> this every >>> > >>>> which way I can think of and it works fine for everything I >>> throw at it. >>> > >>>> The only time things fall apart are when the cache is >>> corrupted or >>> > >>>> missing and/or rescues have be ignored. In those cases there >>> is nothing >>> > >>>> I can do because the proper symbols do not exist anywhere so >>> remapping >>> > >>>> is not possible. >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> On 1/2/2018 1:33 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: >>> > >>>>> Are we really going to do an RC now without any more work to >>> the remap >>> > >>>>> stuff? I just had it ruin another project last night. It >>> behaves very >>> > >>>>> poorly when things also have to be rescued or libraries are >>> missing, it >>> > >>>>> seems. >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 09:10:20AM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >>> > >>>>>> On 1/2/2018 8:58 AM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: >>> > >>>>>>> On 28/12/17 20:24, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >>> > >>>>>>>> There are a few outstanding crash bugs that need to be >>> fixed before >>> > >>> we >>> > >>>>>>>> can consider branching the stable 5 release. Here is the >>> list of >>> > >>>>>>>> unresolved crash bugs that effect the development branch: >>> > >>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1562788 >>> <https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1562788> >>> > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1732274 >>> <https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1732274> >>> > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1738872 >>> <https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1738872> >>> > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1738999 >>> <https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1738999> >>> > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1739614 >>> <https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1739614> >>> > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1740253 >>> <https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1740253> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> Hey Wayne, >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> I fixed the remaining 2 bugs yesterday (the STEP import >>> one is a bug >>> > >>> in >>> > >>>>>>> OCE). Please proceed with the 5.0-rc. >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> Tom >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> Hi Tom, >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> Thanks!. I wont have time to get to this until the >>> weekend. If there >>> > >>>>>> are no additional critical severity bug reports by then, I >>> will create >>> > >>>>>> the version 5 branch. >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> Cheers, >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> Wayne >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> > >>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >>> > >>>>>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>> <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net> >>> > >>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >>> > >>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> > >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >>> > >>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>> <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net> >>> > >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >>> > >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >>> > >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
