Maybe one quick and helpful change would be to make DIALOG_SYMBOL_REMAP::backupProject() add a timestamp or other unique ID to the backup file name, so it won't clobber old backups if run multiple times due to "non-standard" workflows?
On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 2:42 PM, José Ignacio <jose.cyb...@gmail.com> wrote: > This sequence of actions is what puts the project on a stuffed up state: > > * Open schematic and be greeted with some symbols that need rescue, rescue > a couple symbols > * Be greeted by the remap dialog (1) > * Regret remapping and quit without save > * Open schematic again > * Be greeted by the rescue dialog, with ALL symbols, refuse > * Remap dialog fails to find anything, click through (2) > > Schematic looks fine, but the remap and rescue dialogs will show up every > time even though there is a valid sym-lib-table. > > (1) At this point the pro file is overwritten, deleting all project > library entries > (2) At this point the pro file is overwritten again!, clobbering the > backup (SOL) > > If you accept the second rescue you will have to map everything manually. > The remapper should really take the existing sym-lib-table or just not > clobber the pro file until the schematic is saved. > > The close without save step should be perfectly valid if you're just > peeking at an old project and (possibly much later) you want to go modify > it you're greeted with that bad surprise. > > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 1:28 PM, Chris Pavlina <pavlina.ch...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 02:20:10PM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >> > It's exactly as insane as the cache has always been. >> >> I respectfully disagree. As I recall from many years of using KiCad >> before this, nothing about the cache has ever spontaneously deleted all >> libraries without warning. That's a whole new level of insanity that >> deserves its own "what not to do" section in a UX book somewhere. (And >> before you think this is all just "this UX guide sez" vague complaining, >> don't forget that I and many others still have _no idea wtf we're doing_ >> trying to drive this thing.) >> >> > The only way I can >> > think of this happening is that the schematic was not saved after the >> > remapping and once all of the libraries are removed from the project >> > file but cache should still be valid if no save was performed. Let me >> > try remapping this project and I will get back to you. >> > >> > On 1/2/2018 2:08 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: >> > > Ah, that explains my question mark case. That's insane. >> > > >> > > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 01:08:11PM -0600, José Ignacio wrote: >> > >> One big problem is that even if everything fails, the project will >> show up >> > >> fine with all symbols, but they wont have the remap done. at the >> same time >> > >> the remapper deletes all library entries from the project file, which >> > >> causes it to open with question marks only if you reopen it again >> after >> > >> saving. It should show the question marks before then or make better >> use of >> > >> the cache. >> > >> >> > >> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Chris Pavlina < >> pavlina.ch...@gmail.com> >> > >> wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> Keep in mind my problem is not necessarily that things are _broken_ >> but >> > >>> perhaps that they are so opaque that they only make sense in the >> mind of >> > >>> the designer. As I said in the previous message, we've been getting >> TONS >> > >>> of people on IRC who can't figure out how the hell to drive this >> thing, >> > >>> and I count myself among them. Still takes me like three tries to >> load >> > >>> an old project without it stuffing everything up. >> > >>> >> > >>> On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 01:40:40PM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >> > >>>> Please send me a sample project if possible. I have tested this >> every >> > >>>> which way I can think of and it works fine for everything I throw >> at it. >> > >>>> The only time things fall apart are when the cache is corrupted or >> > >>>> missing and/or rescues have be ignored. In those cases there is >> nothing >> > >>>> I can do because the proper symbols do not exist anywhere so >> remapping >> > >>>> is not possible. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> On 1/2/2018 1:33 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: >> > >>>>> Are we really going to do an RC now without any more work to the >> remap >> > >>>>> stuff? I just had it ruin another project last night. It behaves >> very >> > >>>>> poorly when things also have to be rescued or libraries are >> missing, it >> > >>>>> seems. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 09:10:20AM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >> > >>>>>> On 1/2/2018 8:58 AM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: >> > >>>>>>> On 28/12/17 20:24, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >> > >>>>>>>> There are a few outstanding crash bugs that need to be fixed >> before >> > >>> we >> > >>>>>>>> can consider branching the stable 5 release. Here is the list >> of >> > >>>>>>>> unresolved crash bugs that effect the development branch: >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1562788 >> > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1732274 >> > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1738872 >> > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1738999 >> > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1739614 >> > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1740253 >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Hey Wayne, >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> I fixed the remaining 2 bugs yesterday (the STEP import one is >> a bug >> > >>> in >> > >>>>>>> OCE). Please proceed with the 5.0-rc. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Tom >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> Hi Tom, >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> Thanks!. I wont have time to get to this until the weekend. If >> there >> > >>>>>> are no additional critical severity bug reports by then, I will >> create >> > >>>>>> the version 5 branch. >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> Cheers, >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> Wayne >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> > >>>>>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> > >>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> > >>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > >>> >> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> > >>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> > >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> > >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > >>> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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