Mansur e demais colegas:

1) Seu email foi claro.

Eu é que gosto de polemizar para não aceitarmos tudo que chega
sem uma crítica preliminar (e pra te sacanear um pouco também,
hehehe).



2) Minha ojeriza pela expressão *CERTIFICADO* é o lamentável comportamento
de preguiça que gera nos selecionadores e recrutadores.

Eu acho que o próprio processo de certificação é muito bom para os
participantes, pois obriga-os a estudar. Por baixo, é um excelente
benefício. De largada. Fora outros, como debater com colegas, a
ambição envolvida, a coragem para encarar sacrifícios e desafios etc.



Mas não mais me tanto preocupo com a gurizada.

E sim com a outra ponta, responsável por resultados: os *GESTORES*.



Certificar é quase como terceirizar a responsabilidade de selecionar bem
alguém para determinado cargo na empresa.

Eu compreendo as vantagens de terceirização.

Economia de escala, foco no negócio, o terceiro é especialista no ramo e
deve fazer melhor que a gente isso etc...

Mas uma coisa é terceirizar *TAREFAS*. E outra, *DECISÕES*.

Noves fora o comércio abundante de certificações (vou abrir uma lojinha
dessas pra mim também!!!), gera-se uma expectativa no candidato de
que ele precisa ter esse canudo. De que seu coração profissional vai
parar se não tiver isso. E logo em seguida, outra certificação. E outra,
seja ela adquirida com o tempo ou com estudo.

E o dono do negócio está mais preocupado é fazer a coisa andar!

E o gestor em contratar gente com diploma?

Caramba, detesto emails longos...

Vou parando por aqui por que o mate está a esfriar.

Abraços,

EL Cohen
http://twitter.com/robcohen





On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:17 AM, MansurR <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Prezados (as),
>
> Acho que o meu email não ficou claro.
>
> Os americanos entendem certificação como nós entendemos o vestibular. É
> apenas e tão somente o resultado de um teste.
>
> Eles usam o nome programa pq isto não acontece na proposta do PRISM. Para
> conseguir o que chamou de nova certificação é preciso realizar projetos,
> acumular experiência profissional, aprender em  treinamentos , treinar
> pessoas e etc.
>
> É evidente que um profissional que vai e faz um teste pode ter realizado
> anteriormente tudo o que citei em termos de projetos de sucesso, cursos,
> experiência e etc. No entanto isto não é obrigatório. No caso de um programa
> isto é regra, ou seja, todos os que tem o novo certificado tem experência,
> projetos e etc como bagagem.
>
> O novo cetificado que chamaste é similar ao que é o vestibular americano.
> Ou seja, é uma medida de conhecimento, atitudes de muitos anos do aluno na
> escola, ou seja, é um processo não um evento pontual.
>
> Cordialmente
> Ricardo Mansur
> http://itgovrm.blogspot.com
> http://twitter.com/itgovrm
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Roberto Cohen <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
>   *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2009 9:51 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [itsm_br] itSMF USA Announces New Program: Professional
> Recognition for IT Service Managem
>
>
>
> ???
>
> Mas Mansur, é exatamente uma  NOVA LINHA de certificações!
>
> EL CO
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:17 AM, MansurR <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Prezados (as),
>>
>> Em termos simplistas e praticos podemos dizer que este é apenas mais um
>> exemplo do entendimento americano que é preciso ir muito além de
>> certificações. A experiência profissional e realizações vale muito para
>> eles. O objetivo do programa é uma evolução contínua e permanente da
>> qualidade do capital intelectual dos profissionais tendo como contrapartida
>> reconhecimento formal pelo mercado e melhor rendimento.
>>
>> Existem programas semelhantes para diversas certificações como
>> gerenciamento de projetos, six sigma e etc. Em resumo, para eles
>> experiência, qualidade profissional, conhecimento, reconhecimento e renda
>> são coisas que andam de mãos dadas.
>>
>>
>> Cordialmente
>> Ricardo Mansur
>> http://itgovrm.blogspot.com
>> http://twitter.com/itgovrm
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* André Jacobucci <[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>   *Sent:* Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:55 PM
>> *Subject:* RE: [itsm_br] itSMF USA Announces New Program: Professional
>> Recognition for IT Service Managem
>>
>>
>>
>> Parece ser um "cadastro positivo" das qualificações de um profissional que
>> efetivamente pratica gerenciamento de serviços de TI.
>>
>> E se isso tem utilidade nos EUA pode ser porque o mercado de lá está
>> procurando profissionais que efetivamente pratiquem gerenciamento de
>> serviços de TI.
>>
>> Abs,
>>
>> André Jacobucci
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
>> Behalf Of *gbiasoto
>> *Sent:* quinta-feira, 29 de outubro de 2009 18:01
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* [itsm_br] itSMF USA Announces New Program: Professional
>> Recognition for IT Service Managem
>>
>>
>>
>> Alguém da lista consegue explicar o que significa o priSM?
>>
>> _________________________________________________________
>>
>> itSMF USA Announces New Program: Professional Recognition for IT Service
>> Management (priSM)
>> Enhancing the Service Management industry, one professional at a time,
>> recognizing knowledge,
>> skills and abilities.
>>
>> PASADENA, itSMF USA, SEP 21, 2009 — itSMF USA, the premier Service
>> Management organization with a 12-year history of advocacy for the service
>> management profession, together with the Institute of Certified Service
>> Managers (ICSM,) announced today the launch of a program to professionalize
>> the IT Service Management (ITSM) industry at the itSMF Fusion Convention in
>> Dallas, TX. The program, Professional Recognition for IT Service Management
>> (priSM) will enable members to apply for recognition of their ITSM
>> knowledge, skills and abilities. As such, it will represent an added level
>> of credibility for the industry by setting a standard of accomplishment upon
>> which employers and customers can rely when selecting individuals for roles
>> requiring certification and experience in ITSM.
>> This program is the first phase of an initiative by itSMF International to
>> promote a professional recognition and development scheme worldwide. We
>> anticipate that other itSMF Chapters will wish to align their professional
>> credentialing interests with itSMF USA to advance the ITSM community toward
>> a truly global professional. Sharon Taylor, Board Chair of itSMF
>> International, stated that "priSM is a major step towards the maturity of
>> the ITSM industry. This program represents a consistent, global
>> understanding of what it means to be an ITSM practitioner, and how our
>> members can meet their career and personal growth aspirations – no matter
>> where they are today."
>> Once established, itSMF USA will maintain a Registry of members and their
>> professional qualification within the priSM program. Proactive employers and
>> customers will be able to verify the qualification of candidates who are
>> being considered for Service Management roles, assignements or projects.
>> At the individual level, priSM will enable professionals in the ITSM
>> industry to:
>> • Demonstrate their commitment to ITSM
>> • Recognize and improve their knowledge, skills and abilities
>> • Reflect achievement and accomplishments
>> • Increase earning potential
>> For organizations, the most significant benefit of the priSM program is
>> having the ability to verify experience and education of potential employees
>> and service provders to improve processes and service quality while reducing
>> uncertainty about skill levels of prospective resources.
>> Past-President of itSMF USA and ITIL® version 3 co-author, David Cannon,
>> is a member of the team responsible for this program. David stated, "As
>> organizations continue to adopt Service Management practices, it will become
>> far more important to have a valid and meaningful credential they can rely
>> upon. The priSM program will start this in the US and create a blueprint
>> that will be used by itSMF International, working with other National
>> chapters to expand the program into internationally recognized credentials
>> for ITSM professionals."
>> The need to maintain and expand one's knowledge, skills, and abilities is
>> a critical aspect of an individual's career. Evidence that a person is
>> progressing in his or her career is necessary for acceptance within the ITSM
>> profession, as well as the business community. Individuals will need to
>> maintain their credentials on an annual basis through priSM's Continuing
>> Professional Development. A wide variety of sources and subjects are
>> acceptable and will be considered based on standards of delivery, duration,
>> difficulty, and relevance to ITSM.
>> "Our goal is the development and growth of Service Management
>> professionals into valuable and dependable resources for their organizations
>> and customers," said itSMF USA President, Sallie Kennedy. "We have long
>> sought to build a program that enables our membership to be able to
>> demonstrate the skills and knowledge they have worked so hard to attain."
>> "This is a great opportunity for the industry to get to the next level; we
>> are excited about this because it establishes a new level of professionalism
>> that will enhance our industry. Moreover we believe it will instill a pride
>> in our profession, based on the recognition that priSM will provide," said
>> ICSM President Kamal Davé.
>> "At the heart of many IT organizations striving to achieve a level of core
>> ITSM maturity are its people. According to Robert Stroud, CA's VP of
>> Strategy and ITIL/Governance Evangelist and itSMF International Board
>> Member, "I applaud itSMF USA for introducing the priSM program to recognize
>> the achievements of hard working individuals in the ITSM industry. I know it
>> will help move the bar higher by providing ITSM professionals with greater
>> confidence in their knowledge, abilities and skills. I'm excited about this
>> launch and look forward to priSM being adopted by itSMF International so
>> professionals worldwide can be recognized for their dedication and
>> achievements to the ITSM industry."
>> Following some initial briefings, priSM is being welcomed by many vendors:
>> CA, CourseSeeker, EXIN, Holmes and Associates, HP, Loyalist Certification
>> Services, ITSM Academy, ITpreuneurs, PeopleTEK, Plexent
>> In order to apply for professional recognition under the priSM program,
>> members of itSMF USA will be required to complete an application and submit
>> evidence of appropriate knowledge, skills and abilitites. The fee associated
>> with this program will be submitted as part of the application process.
>> itSMF USA will begin accepting applications immediately and will complete
>> the evaluation and validation process by the first quarter of 2010
>> Information about the program and the priSM application can be accessed at
>> www.itsmfusa.org/prism.
>>
>>
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