On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Laurel Fan wrote:
> Excerpts from linuxchix: 17-Jan-101 Re: [issues] Re: Filtering .. by Jen
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> > There's no reason to argue N2H2's effectiveness or in-effectiveness in
> > this newsgroup. The issue is censorship, not N2H2.
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> On the contrary. The issue is Internet filtering. This issue
> includes several sub-questions. One of them is the question of
> censorship. Another question is its effectiveness. Even assuming
Fair enough. However, if N2H2's product enables the librarian or
school official to choose what is blocked or not blocked, then they are
not the ones censoring the content, the librarian is. N2H2 is not the
level at which the decision is made. N2H2 is simply collecting 15+ million
web pages and informing the librarian, to the best of their knowledge,
what each and every web page is about. If the librarian disagrees with
they category with which N2H2 categorizes a particular web page, it is
within their discression to make that change.
How effective is N2H2's product? That is to be determined by each and
every customer that uses it, and not one that anyone who is not (or hasn't
been) a customer of N2H2.
How effective is the newest implimented internet filtering technology? Not
100%. No filtering technology can every be 100% because a page has to
exist and be found before it can be categorized (and ultimately) blocked
or not-blocked. Those are the sites that organizations like peacefire
throw in web filtering company's faces. If peacefire publishes a list of
sites that are blocked and shouldn't be, then N2H2 does
everything they can to ensure that those sites are dealt with.
> Internet filtering is not a good idea if no
> product does what it claims (ie. blocks access to pornography, and
> does not block access to not-pornography).
N2H2's product does not claim to block or not block
pornography. Instead, N2H2 claims it's product to be a "content
management, categorization and value-added service that empowers choice -
promoting safety, productivity, privacy and a positive Web experience"
(see http://www.n2h2.com/solutions/). According to many of our customers,
N2H2 _is_ what it claims to be.
> I assumed you were saying that the people arguing that censorware is
> ineffective were wrong, and claiming that your company's product is in
> fact effective.
That's true. N2H2's product is effective. Not _perfect_, effective. For
the most part, web pages that are claimed to be "porn" porn, "history" are
history, news are 'news', etc.
> I believe that most points raised in a discussion in support of an
> opinion are fair game to be questioned by those who disagree, unless
> doing so hurts another person. I also believe that corporations have
> no feelings to be hurt.
Also fair. I just want to ensure that people are not making opinions
about N2H2 based on one unsatisfied customer, since the satisfied
customers are not here to argue against it.
Jen
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