> Sorry for the rant, I'm in a strange mood. :-) Me too, so I'll rant a little too. With that question, the list has suddenly gone very quiet. Personally, it is not an issue that I want to discuss. "I'm going to take something that you love very much and add in some objectification of women. How can I do that so that it won't offend you?" Well, the short answer is that you can't. You are going to offend me and already have. Not that offending me should inhibit you in any manner, but asking for my approval is a bit much. (Note: replace me and my with the list and the list's and it gets closer to reality.) Bottom line: go do what you have to do and I will ignore it as well as I can like I try with varying levels of success to do with other ways that women are objectified. I went to a trade show yesterday with a male friend and after we left, he said to me, "Did you notice all the prostitutes that were in there?" Well, no, I didn't, but apparantly there were a lot and they were fairly aggressive. Sometimes I really like being clueless! Emily -- Emily Ratliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ratliff.net/emily/ ---***--- "I can't complain but sometimes I still do. Life's been good to me so far." - Joe Walsh, "Life's Been Good" ---***--- ************ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org