On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Blackjax wrote:

> Niether am I, but my view is that women being different from men,
> they simply objectify in a different way.  When women objectify
> men, they make men into a source of income/stability/support.
> Just as not all men objectify women for sex, not all, or even most, 
> women do this, but it is being done.

The "penis and paycheck" form of objectification. Or P&P for short. And
yes, some women want both.

> Objectification of women is a bad thing, but at least is gets 
> recognized for what it is, objectification of men generally does
> not.  Try having another person look at you as simply their free
> meal ticket through life, the thing that will keep them from ever
> having to try very hard at anything, and then tell me its not a 
> scary thing.

It is a scary thing and I honestly wish it wouldn't happen. But it does.

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