On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Deidre L. Calarco wrote:

> Actually, it's frightening how some of the engineers I work with talk about
> their wives - in a really condescending way, as though the women are
> complete idiots and computers and technical stuff are completely beyond
> their grasp.  These are guys, IMHO, who aren't all that technically
> impressive themselves.

My SO and I went out with a couple last week (and a fifth person who
missed all the interpersonal play between them). He put her down several
times and did the "stick with me and you'll understand this some day."

It was disgusting. I wanted to throw my plate at the guy. And male geeks
(like my oblivious friend)  say they don't see discrimination -- they
DON'T even when it happens right in front of them.

To his credit, my SO said, after we were alone, "did that bother you as
much as it bothered me?"

And we really *didn't* know if the woman in question was simply dumb (a
possibility), uninterested (also possible) or smart playing dumb (which
would really bother me).

> BTW, I've been with the same guy for eight years (we're not married, but we
> own a house together).  He's even more technically oriented than I am.

My SO and I have been together seven months and pretty much live together.
He is more of a networking dweeb than I am and I'm more of a coder. In
other words, we're both geeky but we have areas where we out-geek each
other. I like that.

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