On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 12:27:26AM +0200, Yaron Sheffer wrote:
> We have had a few "discusses" during the IESG review of the WESP
> draft. To help resolve them, we would like to reopen the following two
> questions to WG discussion. Well reasoned answers are certainly
> appreciated. But plain "yes" or "no" would also be useful in judging
> the group's consensus.
> 
> - The current draft
> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipsecme-traffic-visibility-11)
> defines the ESP trailer's ICV calculation to include the WESP header.
> This has been done to counter certain attacks, but it means that WESP
> is no longer a simple wrapper around ESP - ESP itself is modified. Do
> you support this design decision?

No.

> - The current draft allows WESP to be applied to encrypted ESP flows,
> in addition to the originally specified ESP-null. This was intended so
> that encrypted flows can benefit from the future extensibility offered
> by WESP. But arguably, it positions WESP as an alternative to ESP. Do
> you support this design decision?

I don't fully understand why we actually need this, but I think the
above is instantly objectionable, while this may be less so.  (Just
thinking in terms of what changes would be required to existing IPsec
implementations.)

Nico
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