On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Charlie Kaufman wrote:

> Oh sigh!! What is it about IPsec that makes people go down this same path 
> every time:

<snip/>

IPsec?

So I guess you haven't been following the TLS mailing list these past couple of 
months.

I don't think anyone's described a practical attack on WESP without extending 
the ICV protected data, but I'm afraid that if we don't extend it, someday 
somebody will, and then we'll really have a situation like they have, 
retrofitting "new ICV" into "old WESP", using "extensions" that many did not 
implement correctly.


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