> This whole thing is depressing.  I am confident Zeev means well, but as a
> usually silent watcher of this list, I'll give this bystander's view of
> the recent
> discussion:
> "I don't like X, but I'll vote for it unless I can get Y approved."
> "I can't get Y approved, but I don't want to vote for X; How about Z?"
> I know some people consider Z to be common ground because it is a sort of
> intersection of X and Y, but it is clear that is not a consensus.

I want to correct one statement in your description.  I absolutely HATE 'X',
it's not that I don't like it.  I think it's really bad.  The only reason I
will vote for it and encourage others to do the same is for unity.  And yes,
that's why I would absolutely want to explore any viable alternatives
beforehand (these two viable alternatives being Y and Z, there's no 4th
one).

I also think that while it's clear that there's no consensus behind Z - we
have no idea how much support it garners.  If it has significantly more than
that for X, is it fair we're not giving it a chance?  Should we not expect
the X supporters to vote in favor for Z for the sake of the very same unity?

Zeev

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