How is it in the process of creating an RFC... "1. Email internals@lists.php.net to measure reaction to your intended proposal. "
-- Cheers, Daniel Rodrigues. geek...@php.net https://twitter.com/geekcom2 ________________________________ De: Kalle Sommer Nielsen <ka...@php.net> Enviado: segunda-feira, 15 de junho de 2020 21:23 Para: Daniel Rodrigues Lima <danielrodrigues...@hotmail.com> Cc: Deleu <deleu...@gmail.com>; Lynn <kja...@gmail.com>; PHP Internals <internals@lists.php.net> Assunto: Re: [PHP-DEV] About the use of the terms master/slave and blacklist, proposal to replace. Den tir. 16. jun. 2020 kl. 03.09 skrev Daniel Rodrigues Lima <danielrodrigues...@hotmail.com>: > > I fully understand the consequences of the discussion we are having here. > Sorry, but it is not nice to assume things about any PHP member. I didn't > "throw a ball in the air at random", and I'm not scared by the negative > responses themselves, I'm just surprised in a negative way. If you fully understand the consequences of this conversation, then why was none of these potentially negatives laid out in the first post for topics of problems to be resolved? The analogy of "Throw the ball in the air randomly" was meant to show no research besides a few links was posted, there was no concrete plan that lists potential issues you would need to overcome to accomplish this in the first place, similar to what Nikita pointed out, there was no research done on this in the first place either. Which is why I doubt (assume) that you did not fully understand the consequences of the conversation, it did not leave me with the impression in any way that you did, if you say you do that now then okay I believe you. I am in no way implying you should be scared by the responses. But you still have not provided any potential direction you wish to take other than "What do you think about changing X symbol name to Y symbol name?" (if you boil the question down). You listed the only pro as using naming that does not cause negative feelings for black people specifically in your first post. There have been no cons listed either, you have heard some from some of the actual language maintainers and some for the community. You did not mention how you plan to tackle upgrade paths, targeted versions or anything. If you just throw the question out there without a concrete plan to begin with, you are not gonna get far. If you however take an active lead and steer the direction of your plan, then the conversation would potentially look different because then you could begin to flesh out the problems at hand and come with a unified solution that could perhaps satisfy the audience that you need for this change to pass. -- regards, Kalle Sommer Nielsen ka...@php.net
