On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 20:07, Thomas Nunninger <tho...@nunninger.info>
wrote:

> Before discussing technical aspects about what changes would be required
> and what are the consequences, I'd like to point out some other aspect:
>
> I'm a white guy. I can't tell women how they should feel about male
> wordings, statements, behavior, whatever; I just need to listen and try
> to behave in a way that they feel safe. (And of course there are aspects
> I can't change.)
>
> I think the same applies to this topic, and it's important to get a
> common understanding of the problem space. (Let's talk about the
> solution space afterwards.)
>

Thomas's post has been ignored by everyone but IMO is the most important in
the thread. [HT to Peter Stalman who expressed a similar thought]

I am a white man. It is not for me to say what is best for others - how
colonial and offensive is that??

So if we want to do this, let's:

1. Ask the black community what they find offensive in PHP
2. Listen
3. Prioritise the responses and judge which are feasible to act on
4. Act


> (I'm not sure if we need to raise this questions in a broader context
> regarding other groups of people. I don't want to open a can of worms.
> But I don't want to forget about other groups.)
>

We should consider all groups of people, but my opinion is it's too
difficult a task to do right now.

Peter

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