John Levine wrote in
 <20250130033602.09eacba78...@ary.qy>:
 |It appears that Trent Adams  <tad...@proofpoint.com> said:
 |>Erp... that’s where I’d pull back... I wouldn’t suggest it be added \
 |>to the charter (that’s a pretty high bar)... rather, let’s chat off to
 |>the side about how to pull it in.
 |
 |I've had informal discussions with the people who maintain Sympa about \
 |this.  They also flagged the issue of
 |potentially large diffs in the headers.

Then they better do not look at what for example Microsoft Outlook
injects there, for example x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata,
x-microsoft-antispam-message-info etc.

I mean, differences are .. the differences in between versions of
a message as they proceed from the sender to the receiver,
possibly mutated through mailing-lists.  That normal path is
pretty short.  The differences are pretty small really, except for
these senseless transfer-encoding message-list mutations, which,
in practice, meaning mailman, happen only once, .. until someone
makes them stop doing that completely.

So if i can get rid of all the then totally senseless ARC headers,
and all the then practically function-less Authorization-Result
headers (except for SPF, which practically and normally can only
be used with "~all", if only some kind of "alias forwarding" is
involved), and if also all the large RSA-based DKIM signatures are
turned to Ed, which could at least be a "SHOULD" for a DKIM
update, then effectively, in all normal cases, the message will
shrink compared to today.  I would even expect: to quite some
notable extend.  (Disturbingly messy HTML / stylesheet soup, and
RSA DKIM and ARC signatures are the most terrible inflaters, in my
experience.)

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)
|
|In Fall and Winter, feel "The Dropbear Bard"s pint(er).
|
|The banded bear
|without a care,
|Banged on himself for e'er and e'er
|
|Farewell, dear collar bear

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