On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 9:15 AM Michael Thomas <m...@mtcc.com> wrote:

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> On 8/5/23 9:05 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
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> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 2:46 PM Michael Thomas <m...@mtcc.com> wrote:
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>> Well, for starters ARC doesn't have broad deployment. But the author
>> doesn't say why ARC is needed or relevant. That is the point here. *All*
>> changes need to be justified including any imported mechanisms. The less
>> rat holes the better. Same with the mailing list modification draft. Why is
>> that even relevant?
>>
>
> With respect to ARC: There's a difference between asking for justification
> and demanding that the discussion be stopped before it even starts.  One of
> those is not okay.
>
> Ok, justify it. Even the author says ARC brings nothing to the table. That
> is not OK. Peddle the ARC agenda in a more appropriate venue.
>
We see a fair amount of important traffic carrying ARC headers, and we use
ARC negative assertions all the time.  It's the positive assertions that
have a trust issue and folks in M3AAWG have a work stream to tackle that.
Moreover the two proposed I-D don't need that trust anyways.

-Wei
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