On 4 Aug 2023, at 11:53, Dave Crocker wrote:

> On 8/4/2023 11:39 AM, Jim Fenton wrote:
>> I’m even less clear on draft-chuang-mailing-list-modifications. Does it have 
>> to do with the currently chartered work
>
>
> DKIM WG charter:
>
>    "it will produce one or more technical specifications that propose
>    replay-resistant mechanisms."
>
> I don't have an opinion about the quality or utility of this I-D, but it has 
> quite a few references to replay, including:
>
>    "The validation results in this specification are orthogonal to the
>    results indraft-chuang-replay-resistant-arc
>    <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chuang-replay-resistant-arc/> .
>    In addition to better supporting DMARC in the presence of
>    mailing-list modifications, this specification enables attribution
>    of malicious content back to the author. However this specification
>    is vulnerable to replay much like DKIM and ARC.
>    draft-chuang-replay-resistant-arc
>    <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chuang-replay-resistant-arc/>
>    validation is tolerant of header and message body modifications but
>    unable to provide attribution."
>
>
> This would seem to answer you question.  That is, it has text indicating 
> relevance.
>
> You might disagree that it's relevant.  That's fine, but to promote useful 
> discussion, details are needed.
>
> From you.
>
> That is, to the extent that you disagree about its relevance, it will help to 
> hear specifics, rather than your asking a generic question that throws a 
> burden of proof back on the document author, without providing them any 
> indication what criteria you are applying here or any detail about why you 
> think it not relevant.

I was not disagreeing with anything. I was asking a question. That’s all.

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