Jon,
I don't understand what you are saying.

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 1:35 PM Jon Perryman <jperr...@pacbell.net> wrote:

> On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, 12:52:56 PM PDT, Kirk Wolf wrote:
>  > You really like all of this mangling of the shell syntax?
>
> In all Unix systems, we simply avoid situations where this mangling is
> needed (e.g. "sh -c some-mangled-statements"). Why do you think this a good
> practice in BPXBATCH when it's considered a bad practice in Unix? The
> commonly accepted solution is to create a proper script file and call it.
>
> What exactly are you referring to as good or bad practice?   I don't
understand your point here at all.


> By the way, "#" comments must be terminated by a newline. The ";" command
> terminator character is considered to be part of the comment which is why
> you cannot terminate comments properly.
>
> > For heaven's sake, why doesn't it just read the input from DD:STDIN
>
> IBM simply followed the Unix standard practice. They start the shell and
> pass STDPARM data as an argument. Probably "sh -c
> data-from-stdparm-as-a-string".  I suspect that newline is not supported
> because it's should be interpreted as end of the "sh" command.
>
> Which Unix standard practice?  You never seem to address why taking
DD:STDIN as stdin to /bin/sh isn't the most desirable way for it to work?

BTW: You are correct: the concatenated lines from STDPARM are passed as the
arg to "sh -c".   This is why all sorts of things work much differently
than if the script was in a file (either real or pipe).   Another example
is that an an error message that refers to a line number in the input is
lost since it appears as one line.


> For IBM to do as you suggest, the DD:STDIN would be copied to FD0 ( Unix
> stdin ) which introduces several much larger problems and would cause
> confusion for the user. Scripts should always be in a script file otherwise
> the behavior changes and will cause confusion.
>
> Exactly what problems do you refer to?


> If you truly need the newline feature from inline JCL data, then have
> STDPARM copy your script DD (including newlines) and execute this copied
> script..
>
> Alternatively, you could have an edit macro that submits a BPXBATCH job
> calling the script file you are currently editing.
>
> Jon.
>
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