David,

Yes sir...I sometimes feel some customers forgot how to read...I know they 
don't read manuals, been there done that and have numerous t-shirts.

Scott

On Oct 19, 2017, 7:31 AM -0400, David Crayford <[email protected]>, wrote:
> I don't agree. WTORs are an anachronism but SYSLOG is one of the best
> things about z/OS systems. When you consider sophisticated modern tools
> like Splunk and the ELK stack the syslog looks better than ever.
>
> On 19/10/2017 7:37 AM, Steve Smith wrote:
> > That's almost funny. Console output, and SYSLOG has been a complete
> > morass of feces for decades, and it continuously gets worse. A large
> > percentage of programmers seem to think every twitch and twiddle of
> > their precious program deserves to be announced via WTO (I call it
> > WTO diarrhea).
> >
> > No one goes in there unless looking for something specific. And it
> > seems fairly unlikely to me that someone would go looking for
> > expiration warnings.
> >
> > sas
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 7:09 PM, Lester, Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > IMHO, console messages should be sufficient. Compuware, for example, 
> > > makes them hard to miss!
> > >
> > > OTOH, the above depends on someone/something actually monitoring the 
> > > console. That’s something that seems to be going away, and I think that's 
> > > just plain wrong.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > BobL
> > >
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