99.9% of SYSPROGS are as honest is the day is sometime very long.  

At a former customer, my manager came over to my desk, I backed up the files in 
question and then blew
The LOADLIB off the active RES, and then archived everything.

2 Weeks later he said eliminate it and that was it.  The product was about $400 
a month however no one
Wants IBM to come calling.  Then I did that to another product for tape, after 
we moved to a no-tape solution.
Even if we had no-tapes as Charles said the current environment ISV's have the 
right to audit.



Steve



-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Ed Jaffe
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 1:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Potential stupid question - MSUs

On 10/18/2017 10:42 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
> And yes, with the complexity of modern 'plexes and licenses, we have at my 
> current employer had customer, ahem, misunderstandings.

And those "misunderstandings" have a mixed-bag of outcomes. Some customers 
understand the concept of fair play, but in many cases the biggest lawyers win.

If, as Skip's company did (BTW, Skip is DEAD WRONG on this issue), you 
"accidentally" use unlicensed IBM software, you will pay -- no question about 
it because IBM's lawyers are as big or bigger than yours are *AND* they own the 
operating system on which your business depends. But, when the customer's 
lawyer is bigger than the ISV's lawyer, some have a tendency to say, "Hey, Man. 
It was an accident and it won't happen again. It's really your fault that your 
software doesn't enforce the contract T&Cs properly. BTW, could you now spend 
money on a project to build protections into your software to help us police 
this?"

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