John, As always an excellent point. I think critical thinking and common sense is missing sometimes. Maybe my 63 yrs is showing ....
Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD > On Jan 6, 2014, at 4:10 PM, John McKown <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Scott Ford <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Chris, >> I agree, a lot of the young kids don't want to dig thru doc , research or >> learn how hardware and software work. If it ain't a gui and using JVM , >> well ...I learned macro level cobol for CICS , by a guy showing and telling >> you how it worked ..if you asked a second time, his response, you weren't >> listening the first time. We also had access to source code and that's how >> we learned a lot about CICS guts, it's inter-workings, then we managed to >> go to IBM class if we were lucky. >> > > Part of the problem is likely today's culture. It is a "I want it _now_!" > society. Along with "And I want it _cheap_!". This is not just the "kids". > A lot of it is from "upper management". In many companies today, managers > don't consider the company an investment in their future. They want this > year's bonus and if that means sacrificing next year's business, then so be > it. Young people get pushed to "be productive". Which to management usually > means "get something into the users' hands NOW and get them off my back". > > >> >> I busted my ... To get into systems programming and then development, I >> earned mine like a lot of other girls and guys. Bottomline, I feel you >> have to earn it. >> > > IMO, if you want to find the people who are willing work hard and learn, > look in the FOSS arena. Most of those people are driven to "scratch their > own itch", not just make a buck. Of course, they also want peer approval. > Not that all of them are pleasant. Look at some of Linux Thorvald's (father > of Linux) posts to others. Talk about nasty language. Makes all the posts > here seem like the words of saints. > > > >> >> Scott ford >> www.identityforge.com >> from my IPAD >> >> > > > -- > This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough > hunchbacks. > > Maranatha! <>< > John McKown > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
