Chris, I agree, a lot of the young kids don't want to dig thru doc , research or learn how hardware and software work. If it ain't a gui and using JVM , well ...I learned macro level cobol for CICS , by a guy showing and telling you how it worked ..if you asked a second time, his response, you weren't listening the first time. We also had access to source code and that's how we learned a lot about CICS guts, it's inter-workings, then we managed to go to IBM class if we were lucky.
I busted my ... To get into systems programming and then development, I earned mine like a lot of other girls and guys. Bottomline, I feel you have to earn it. Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD > On Jan 6, 2014, at 3:15 PM, "Blaicher, Christopher Y." > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have been a sys prog or ISV developer for over 45 years. I have always > HATED it when someone says "We have always done it this way", or the like. > Tell me why the old way is better or why the new way won't work. > > We all need to open up our minds to new ideas. Most of the people I work > with are half my age, some a third. I always look at what they come up with > with a positive how can we make this work attitude. Some ideas do work and > some don't and some aren't any better than what exists, but they all deserve > the light of day. > > We can still be grumpy old men, just don't stifle anybody's creativeness and > try to be nice to the younger crowd until they get to know you. > > Chris Blaicher > Principal Software Engineer, Software Development > Syncsort Incorporated > 50 Tice Boulevard, Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677 > P: 201-930-8260 | M: 512-627-3803 > E: [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Ed Gould > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 1:47 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Scary Sysprogs > >> On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:44 PM, Nathan J Pfister wrote: >> ------------------------ >> SNIP___________________________________________ >> That said, maybe I was just fortunate that I found my internship and >> first post-college job within the Federal Government in which it is >> nearly impossible to get fired, thus making change and new >> ideas/people not as much of a threat as in private industry. > Nathan: > > There are private sector companies that are similar (almost impossible to get > fired). > The cream does not rise to the top as the good people leave faster than one > can get used to. > The bad stifles all creativity and what is left is a garbage dump. > > SO I can only imagine what a government place is like and doubly wanting to > stay away from such places. > > Ed > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
