FedEx moved to AWS. ING too. All these smug comments are a bit misplaced. > On 30 Nov 2024, at 07:49, Michael Oujesky <reflect...@oujesky.net> wrote: > > But look at the bonuses those managers and project leads received in > recognition of their contribution to the bottom line. > > At 02:35 PM 11/25/2024, Itschak Mugzach wrote: > >> LOL. >> >> A mainframe site in Israel plans to drop the mainframe for 15 years >> or more. They started with a six years project to convert 4 core systems >> that will cost 100 million dollars. After 9 years, They ended with 1 >> completed system out of four that cost 200 M$. >> >> When will they (the new CIOs) ever learn? If it's not broken, don't fix it! >> >> *| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software **|** IronSphere >> Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for Z/OS, zLinux >> and IBM I **| * >> >> *|* *Email**: i_mugz...@securiteam.co.il **|* *Mob**: +972 522 986404 **|* >> *Skype**: ItschakMugzach **|* *Web**: www.Securiteam.co.il **|* >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 7:39 PM Phil Smith III <li...@akphs.com> wrote: >> >> > Bob Nix of AMAX Coal told me about when AMAX decided to get off the >> > mainframe. To the extent that I recall the details: >> > >> > They hired a consultant to do the analysis. He said something like "Five >> > years" and management said "Too long", fired him, hired another consultant. >> > Same answer, same result. Third consultant could read the writing on the >> > wall, said "Two years, no problem". So they went ahead. Two years in, >> > things were NOT done. And of course the existing staff had largely wandered >> > away. Finally three years plus later, they were almost done--and another >> > company swooped in, bought them, and shut them down. Oops. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf >> > Of Howard Rifkind >> > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2024 11:54 AM >> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> > Subject: Re: Heh, "Sabre is Getting Off the Mainframe-One Way or Another" >> > >> > The company I worked for many years decided to go in a similar direction. >> > Needless to say they only had very moderate success, never completed the >> > project before going out of business. Servers laying all over the computer >> > room and just one 3090-xxx running VM release 5.xx, 4 MVS O/s, VM under VM >> > running a real old version of IBM DOS because of an old hardware 3340 issue >> > (ISAM never converted to VSAM. This story isn't new, seems management just >> > can't decide which platform is the right box to run the business and get >> > the most out a buck. >> > >> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 10:27 AM Phil Smith III <li...@akphs.com> wrote: >> > >> > > Sabre is Getting Off the Mainframe-One Way or Another >> > > >> > > https://planetmainframe.com/2023/06/sabre-is-getting-off-the-mainframe >> > > -one-way-or-another/ >> > > >> > > "No, really, we mean it this time." >> > > >> > > And this is almost 18 months old; I can't remember how I came across >> > > it now, alas. ("Senility: not just a river in Africa") >> > > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >> > > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email >> > to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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